Hays High Weight Facility

Anyone read about the proposed facility that only benefits a few....kinda like the sports complex I'm paying for. I guess the part that ruffles my feathers is the fact that the Pepsi grant being sought is under the category of education.. If that's education you can kiss my ass...It's all about football. Just another attempt to whitewash the facts and get what they want.

It's like Stossel's golf cart.

So, what if it is only about football...which it isn't, can't be...maybe you should say, MOSTLY about football. I am sure only Football players will use it. Actually, I think I saw that they were going to make it where you must have a special key card to get in and those will only be issued to football players. Why else would it cost so much?

Most athletes at Hays High have to go to the Center, Main Street gym, or another gym to work out. Which means that most of them can not work out as a team or even in a group (since they all have to be members of that gym). Just a thought to add.

Oh and I bet Blackie that you are really shelling out on the sports complex BIG TIME!! Let's say you spend $15,000 a year, that's a little less than $300 a week, on sales tax items (which I bet you aren't, unless you are buying a car, maybe you are a big spender, but the demographics of the area, this is about the median), that amounts to $75 going towards the sports complex a year. The average person in Hays is going to spend about $300 on the sports complex. I guess the point is that you are paying for it, but not as much as you'd like to bitch about. I wish the complainers would put a quarter in a jar every time they had a negative statement, I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex.

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

Since when was a grant from PepsiCo considered public funds?

First of all people its NOT just for the football players. ANY kid thats in ANY sport has been using that tiny little room for zero hour and they are having to use the hallways too. And this number is hardly a few. There are a ton of kids. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's totally private funded. If you aren't being asked to shell out money to fund the building of it I don't think you have the right to bitch about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwYZZFOwQM&feature=player_embedded

slider wrote:

Hays High has a weight room, I used to have to clean it when I was a Janitor for USD 489 when the new High School was built. It simply isn't big enough according to the Athletic Department and they have to do conditioning drills out in the hallway because of a lack of space. BOO HOO!!!!!

Yeah, lets pay a coach an obscene amount of money, have no teaching responsibility other than coaching Football and let other programs suffer because the Booster Club and a few Parents living vicariouly through their children that want to be a Smith Center Junior football clone.

It's complete bull$hit regardless if they are trying to raise "private funds" to build this new addition. Are the public donors going to continue to donate funds for upkeep, utilities and staff for this white elephant. No that will fall back to the taxpayers and even more $$$$ will be diverted from other programs to pay for the Football Program which does not bring any $$$$ back to the High School.

A complete farce just like the "Soccer Complex" that was started by a "Private/Public Group" who it is now known knew absolutely nothing about how much their folly would cost. Just a small $4,000,000.00 oversight between what was promised through their bull$hit proposal and what it will actually cost the taxpayers.

As usual, slimer is a ray of sunshine.

luv2cook wrote:

First of all people its NOT just for the football players. ANY kid thats in ANY sport has been using that tiny little room for zero hour and they are having to use the hallways too. And this number is hardly a few. There are a ton of kids. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's totally private funded. If you aren't being asked to shell out money to fund the building of it I don't think you have the right to bitch about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwYZZFOwQM&feature=player_embedded

BOO HOO HOO! Why don't they use the Gyms for their conditiioning like we had to back at good old Hays High. That what the SOB's were designed for, use them and quit bitching about lack of space.

slider wrote:

luv2cook wrote:

First of all people its NOT just for the football players. ANY kid thats in ANY sport has been using that tiny little room for zero hour and they are having to use the hallways too. And this number is hardly a few. There are a ton of kids. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's totally private funded. If you aren't being asked to shell out money to fund the building of it I don't think you have the right to bitch about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwYZZFOwQM&feature=player_embedded

BOO HOO HOO! Why don't they use the Gyms for their conditiioning like we had to back at good old Hays High. That what the SOB's were designed for, use them and quit bitching about lack of space.

For the FIRST time, I agree.

I could do the exercises depicted in the video in my hall closet with a gallon jug full of sand.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

I could do the exercises depicted in the video in my hall closet with a gallon jug full of sand.

That ain't sand in that gallon jug and you know it.

The Other One wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

Since when was a grant from PepsiCo considered public funds?

Is PepsiCo gonna pay the energy bill and staffing costs?

slider wrote:

luv2cook wrote:

First of all people its NOT just for the football players. ANY kid thats in ANY sport has been using that tiny little room for zero hour and they are having to use the hallways too. And this number is hardly a few. There are a ton of kids. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's totally private funded. If you aren't being asked to shell out money to fund the building of it I don't think you have the right to bitch about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwYZZFOwQM&feature=player_embedded

BOO HOO HOO! Why don't they use the Gyms for their conditiioning like we had to back at good old Hays High. That what the SOB's were designed for, use them and quit bitching about lack of space.

So what? If they get the grant and you don't like it, then why don't you boycott all PepsiCo products to make your point. Just be aware that boycotting PepsiCo would include all Pepsi soft drink products including Tropicana juices, Gatorade, Aquafina, all Frito-Lay products, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC, Long John Silver's, A&W Restaurants and Quaker Oats. Then you can be sure that you're not paying for it.

Again, you're acting like Dana Carvey's "Crabby Old Man."

i don't drink Pepsi anymore because they sponsor Jeffy "Buttboy" Gordon

By the way, slimer, use of the gym in that volume would result in damage to the floor that would have to be repaired at taxpayer expense in order to use them for competitive sports. It would also undoubtedly lead to avoidable injuries, and although athletes are required to have their own insurance, you might end up with 17-year-olds legally taking your parking spots.

slickjay12 wrote:

i don't drink Pepsi anymore because they sponsor Jeffy "Buttboy" Gordon

I don't drink Pepsi because it sucks.

slider wrote:

luv2cook wrote:

First of all people its NOT just for the football players. ANY kid thats in ANY sport has been using that tiny little room for zero hour and they are having to use the hallways too. And this number is hardly a few. There are a ton of kids. This kind of stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest because it's totally private funded. If you aren't being asked to shell out money to fund the building of it I don't think you have the right to bitch about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TwYZZFOwQM&feature=player_embedded

BOO HOO HOO! Why don't they use the Gyms for their conditiioning like we had to back at good old Hays High. That what the SOB's were designed for, use them and quit bitching about lack of space.

When do you suggest they do that? They have 2 gyms and in the fall both are used for Volleyball practice and in the winter both are used for basketball practice. So you see its not see easy.

Nitro you must have a huge closet because there's a whole lot of lap running going on as well.


And The Other One is right, the gym floor would be torn up in nothing flat.

Supposedly they arent going to add personnel.

luv2cook wrote:

Nitro you must have a huge closet because there's a whole lot of lap running going on as well.

The previous resident had a lot of skeletons in it.

The Other One wrote:

use of the gym in that volume would result in damage to the floor that would have to be repaired at taxpayer expense in order to use them for competitive sports

Only if the golf team practices in spikes.

The Other One wrote:

It would also undoubtedly lead to avoidable injuries.

Because the room is too big?

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have????????The kids have to take drivers ed??To get their liscences or what??That's usually a choice-I can teach my kid to drive

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

use of the gym in that volume would result in damage to the floor that would have to be repaired at taxpayer expense in order to use them for competitive sports

Only if the golf team practices in spikes.

Or when the finish was torn off due to excess traffic.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

It would also undoubtedly lead to avoidable injuries.

Because the room is too big?

Because they would be playing basketball or volleyball on an unsafe surface.

wilkykav2 wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have????????The kids have to take drivers ed??To get their liscences or what??That's usually a choice-I can teach my kid to drive

Yeah, it's not required, and it's a small investment compared to the increased insurance premiums if they don't have it.

nitro, PE classes are a relatively small number of kids in a closely controlled environment. Not so during Zero Hour.

The Other One wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

use of the gym in that volume would result in damage to the floor that would have to be repaired at taxpayer expense in order to use them for competitive sports

Only if the golf team practices in spikes.

Or when the finish was torn off due to excess traffic.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

It would also undoubtedly lead to avoidable injuries.

Because the room is too big?

Because they would be playing basketball or volleyball on an unsafe surface.

Let me guess. You're the kinda guy with the pretty seashell soaps on the toilet tank that nobody can use. It's a gym, dude.

As far as an unsafe surface, what about plenty of money for PLAYING sports, but no money for drivers ed?

The Other One wrote:

wilkykav2 wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have????????The kids have to take drivers ed??To get their liscences or what??That's usually a choice-I can teach my kid to drive

Yeah, it's not required, and it's a small investment compared to the increased insurance premiums if they don't have it.

At 15 YES!!!

LINK

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

wilkykav2 wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have????????The kids have to take drivers ed??To get their liscences or what??That's usually a choice-I can teach my kid to drive

Yeah, it's not required, and it's a small investment compared to the increased insurance premiums if they don't have it.

At 15 YES!!!

LINK

But it's not required at 16 to get the unrestricted license.

The Other One wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

The Other One wrote:

wilkykav2 wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

So.....

Hays High has no weight room? interesting...

Felten has a before school weights program. Kids can go lift before school, shower, and go right to class without need of a ride between facilities. Don't know about Kennedy.

I just find it very strange that there is plenty of public funding for sports, that a few will VOLUNTARILY use while there is NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have.

interesting...

NO funding for driver's ed that ALL ARE REQUIRED to have????????The kids have to take drivers ed??To get their liscences or what??That's usually a choice-I can teach my kid to drive

Yeah, it's not required, and it's a small investment compared to the increased insurance premiums if they don't have it.

At 15 YES!!!

LINK

But it's not required at 16 to get the unrestricted license.

read again

It's not required at either 16 or 17. The only time it is required is for the restricted license at 15. However, those 15 year olds who opt out of driver's ed can still have an instructional permit, which requires a licensed driver, age 18 or older, to be in the front seat with them at all times.

Now you reread it.

lilchefed wrote:

So, what if it is only about football...which it isn't, can't be...maybe you should say, MOSTLY about football. I am sure only Football players will use it. Actually, I think I saw that they were going to make it where you must have a special key card to get in and those will only be issued to football players. Why else would it cost so much?

Oh and I bet Blackie that you are really shelling out on the sports complex BIG TIME!! Let's say you spend $15,000 a year, that's a little less than $300 a week, on sales tax items (which I bet you aren't, unless you are buying a car, maybe you are a big spender, but the demographics of the area, this is about the median), that amounts to $75 going towards the sports complex a year. The average person in Hays is going to spend about $300 on the sports complex. I guess the point is that you are paying for it, but not as much as you'd like to bitch about. I wish the complainers would put a quarter in a jar every time they had a negative statement, I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex.

The "complainers" are grousing about being forced to involuntarily pay for this and your suggestion for solution is for them to instead voluntarily pay?

robert wrote:

lilchefed wrote:

So, what if it is only about football...which it isn't, can't be...maybe you should say, MOSTLY about football. I am sure only Football players will use it. Actually, I think I saw that they were going to make it where you must have a special key card to get in and those will only be issued to football players. Why else would it cost so much?

Oh and I bet Blackie that you are really shelling out on the sports complex BIG TIME!! Let's say you spend $15,000 a year, that's a little less than $300 a week, on sales tax items (which I bet you aren't, unless you are buying a car, maybe you are a big spender, but the demographics of the area, this is about the median), that amounts to $75 going towards the sports complex a year. The average person in Hays is going to spend about $300 on the sports complex. I guess the point is that you are paying for it, but not as much as you'd like to bitch about. I wish the complainers would put a quarter in a jar every time they had a negative statement, I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex.

The "complainers" are grousing about being forced to involuntarily pay for this and your suggestion for solution is for them to instead voluntarily pay?

He said put a quarter in a jar. Nowhere did he say to use as payment for anything. You're making things up again, bobby. Or is it the hallucinogens making you do it?

Bet push mowing the football field, throwing bales, bags of cement, or maybe using a couple 5 gallon buckets of water for dumbells and running up and down stairs with them would toughen them boys up at a fraction of the price.

The Other One wrote:

robert wrote:

lilchefed wrote:

So, what if it is only about football...which it isn't, can't be...maybe you should say, MOSTLY about football. I am sure only Football players will use it. Actually, I think I saw that they were going to make it where you must have a special key card to get in and those will only be issued to football players. Why else would it cost so much?

Oh and I bet Blackie that you are really shelling out on the sports complex BIG TIME!! Let's say you spend $15,000 a year, that's a little less than $300 a week, on sales tax items (which I bet you aren't, unless you are buying a car, maybe you are a big spender, but the demographics of the area, this is about the median), that amounts to $75 going towards the sports complex a year. The average person in Hays is going to spend about $300 on the sports complex. I guess the point is that you are paying for it, but not as much as you'd like to bitch about. I wish the complainers would put a quarter in a jar every time they had a negative statement, I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex.

The "complainers" are grousing about being forced to involuntarily pay for this and your suggestion for solution is for them to instead voluntarily pay?

He said put a quarter in a jar. Nowhere did he say to use as payment for anything. You're making things up again, bobby. Or is it the hallucinogens making you do it?

"I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex"

actually just presumed that to be the intention since that seems to be the underlying wish of the poster. maybe they will skim the "negative thought penalty jar". i'm sure some of that is gonna happen no matter where the money comes from. yes making things up... whatever EP, whatever.... sigh... i pray to whatever gods are out there to someday strike you "kind"...

robert wrote:

The Other One wrote:

robert wrote:

lilchefed wrote:

So, what if it is only about football...which it isn't, can't be...maybe you should say, MOSTLY about football. I am sure only Football players will use it. Actually, I think I saw that they were going to make it where you must have a special key card to get in and those will only be issued to football players. Why else would it cost so much?

Oh and I bet Blackie that you are really shelling out on the sports complex BIG TIME!! Let's say you spend $15,000 a year, that's a little less than $300 a week, on sales tax items (which I bet you aren't, unless you are buying a car, maybe you are a big spender, but the demographics of the area, this is about the median), that amounts to $75 going towards the sports complex a year. The average person in Hays is going to spend about $300 on the sports complex. I guess the point is that you are paying for it, but not as much as you'd like to bitch about. I wish the complainers would put a quarter in a jar every time they had a negative statement, I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex.

The "complainers" are grousing about being forced to involuntarily pay for this and your suggestion for solution is for them to instead voluntarily pay?

He said put a quarter in a jar. Nowhere did he say to use as payment for anything. You're making things up again, bobby. Or is it the hallucinogens making you do it?

"I'm betting that jar would have more money in it then they actually spend towards the complex"

actually just presumed that to be the intention since that seems to be the underlying wish of the poster. maybe they will skim the "negative thought penalty jar". i'm sure some of that is gonna happen no matter where the money comes from. yes making things up... whatever EP, whatever.... sigh... i pray to whatever gods are out there to someday strike you "kind"...

Yeah, right. Whatever.

I'm glad to see the response to my topic! I did it to increase traffic here and expose the bullshit that's put out there to believe one thing and get another. I really believe that money would be better spent on REAL education programs and not sports. The commentary on the HDN site was good reading<for once> and insightful. I don't mean to hurt feelings but tough shit if I do!!!

slider wrote:

Those gym floors can take the abuse, obviously you have never finished them. We finished them when they were put down when it was built.
They are rated to last up to 10 to 15 years before needing refinishing. Give me a break that they won't hold up, grabbing at straws to con people
into believing anything to justify the new weight room.

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Funny, I worked for a school district in Dickinson County for 6 years and we stripped and re-waxed our gym floors every single year and that school didnt have a quarter of the kids HHS does.. I know this because was just me and another gal that did it. Its a shit job in the middle of the summer, especially if your gym isnt air-conditioned.

Like I said earlier, if this was being funded by taxes I'd be less hesitant to support it, but if they want to pay for the damn thing themselves then I say more power to em.

Asking for money from Pepsi under false pretenses is hardly paying for it themselves.Other wise I would say the effort is admirable.

slider you are being warned. If you dont like it here, LEAVE! If you hate this lame assed forum so much why the hell do you continue to post here?? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Blackie Kuhn wrote:

Asking for money from Pepsi under false pretenses is hardly paying for it themselves.Other wise I would say the effort is admirable.

How is this false pretense? Because YOU say that it isn't needed? Plus, they had to apply and get accepted. Not all that apply get to the voting stage.

I vote 3 times a day (3 different email addresses) for it. I would love for them to get it, as I don't have any money to give them but want to support it.

I don't know if everyone is talking about the same thing when they talk about redoing the floors. I know HRC get's theirs done yearly, but I bet is more of this screened and recoating that I've been reading about and they talk about here (not a complete stripping):

http://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/flooring/what-makes-sports-flooring-different.htm/printable

Quote :

Manufacturers and installers of sports floors recommend that they be screened and recoated once a year to help the surface perform like it should.

Either way, there is a good amount of yearly maintenance that has to be done.

If you weren't so crude you might be a little humorous.

If you think the numbers are up because of your posts, we could put up a poll and find out. Or would that hurt your feelings if you were wrong?

Justoo wrote:

If you weren't so crude you might be a little humorous.

If you think the numbers are up because of your posts, we could put up a poll and find out. Or would that hurt your feelings if you were wrong?

God are you are so gullable

Not really. And I can spell.

First of all - I will thank you for nothing.
Second of all - you have no right to say a word about personal attacks. You are one of the people that verbally attacks people.
Third - Your not the only one that deals with a disability here, but you are the first to bring your disability to light at any chance possible. None of us would even know about it if you wouldn't have announced it as many times as you have.

You have not hurt my feelings in any way shape or form. In fact I could really care less what you think. I was simply stating that if you hate it SOOOO much here, you can leave. The only reason I haven't removed you permanently is because some people enjoy bickering with you.

Don't flatter yourself. I am not too worried about you, your opinions, etc. I have many many many other things in my life that rank WAY above you.

nobodysbusiness wrote:

First of all - I will thank you for nothing.
Second of all - you have no right to say a word about personal attacks. You are one of the people that verbally attacks people.
Third - Your not the only one that deals with a disability here, but you are the first to bring your disability to light at any chance possible. None of us would even know about it if you wouldn't have announced it as many times as you have.

You have not hurt my feelings in any way shape or form. In fact I could really care less what you think. I was simply stating that if you hate it SOOOO much here, you can leave. The only reason I haven't removed you permanently is because some people enjoy bickering with you.

Don't flatter yourself. I am not too worried about you, your opinions, etc. I have many many many other things in my life that rank WAY above you.

Dang, what floor button did I push on that Elevator?

Bickering with the trolls, I like that one but it is so much fun to do.
I'm glad they enjoy it, I hope they enjoy it as much as I do. Cheers!