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PostSubject: Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government   Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government Icon_minitimeSat Feb 06, 2010 8:47 am

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

The state's "Subversive Activities Registration Act," passed last year and now officially on the books, states that "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."

There's even a $5 filing fee.

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/
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Kinda sounds like the Drug Tax Stamp in Kansas.
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The Other One wrote:
Kinda sounds like the Drug Tax Stamp in Kansas.

they actually catch traffickers rolling through with drugs and tax stamps... somebody buys them....

lol!
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robert wrote:
The Other One wrote:
Kinda sounds like the Drug Tax Stamp in Kansas.

they actually catch traffickers rolling through with drugs and tax stamps... somebody buys them....

lol!

Something tells me that terrorists are a little smarter than that.
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Terrorists?
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these buffoons are lighting their depends on fire... i could see somebody actually doing this
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robert wrote:
these buffoons are lighting their depends on fire... i could see somebody actually doing this

That guy was expendable. If they really wanted to take out that plane, they would have.
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This law and the drug tax stamps are as unconstitutional as it gets. To buy these permits/stamps is self incrimination forced by law. I am truly ashamed when our lawmakers resort to such illegal tactics, and even more so when the Courts uphold them knowing full well they shit all over the Constitution.

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Fifth Amendment – No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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they seem to win either way. everytime something happens there is one less thing u can take on plane (typically unrelated to incident) and the probing goes that much deeper. unfortunate either way. i wonder sometimes what the real solution is to all of this. there is an answer, always is. but it grows increasingly clearer however; that answer, is still unknown to us.
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they seem to win either way. everytime something happens there is one less thing u can take on plane (typically unrelated to incident) and the probing goes that much deeper. unfortunate either way. i wonder sometimes what the real solution is to all of this. there is an answer, always is. but it grows increasingly clearer however; that answer, is still unknown to us.

Risk is inherent in a free society. We are still relatively free.
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Risk is inherent in a free society. We are still relatively free.

that should be our new military motto "Fighting to keep you "Sorta Free""

"let sorta freedom ring!"

shifting baselines are the death of all worthy causes...
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shifting baselines are the death of all worthy causes...

On that, I agree.
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there is an answer, always is. but it grows increasingly clearer however; that answer, is still unknown to us.

No it isn't. The answer is staying the hell out of Middle Eastern affairs. If they were sending their armies to the US and taking over we'd probably plot against them too. Only we'd call our guys freedom fighters and patriots.

Kinda like how the French resistance was when they set up roadside bombs and blew up German trains. Germans bombing Londoners was an act of cowardice, but firebombing Dresden and roasting little German kids alive was ok cause the good guys were dropping the bombs.

No, I'm not excusing terrorists. I'm just pointing out how they probably see us. To them we are the Nazi invaders.
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robert wrote:
there is an answer, always is. but it grows increasingly clearer however; that answer, is still unknown to us.

No it isn't. The answer is staying the hell out of Middle Eastern affairs. If they were sending their armies to the US and taking over we'd probably plot against them too. Only we'd call our guys freedom fighters and patriots.

Kinda like how the French resistance was when they set up roadside bombs and blew up German trains. Germans bombing Londoners was an act of cowardice, but firebombing Dresden and roasting little German kids alive was ok cause the good guys were dropping the bombs.

No, I'm not excusing terrorists. I'm just pointing out how they probably see us. To them we are the Nazi invaders.

unfortunately walking away just isn't a viable solution. our forefathers said it was best to stay out of foreign affairs altogether but later leaders learned that the lackadaisical approach to foreign policy wasn't a good long term plan. like them or not; understand them and their culture or not, we do have to live with them in the larger world sense. we can ill afford to have "the crazies" in power so it behooves us to interact with them. we are left but two options in this pursuit diplomacy or violence. both have subjective patterns of failure and success.
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We don't have to ignore the Middle East, we just need to deal with them in a way that doesn't come across as Boss man USA says do this or else. We're a very pushy nation. Gotta keep outdoing the evil commies on land and resources ya know.
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sigh... only in a more perfect world...
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