How Does This Stimulus Stimulate?

Can President Obama Explain How Stimulus Stimulates?

So like many of you, I came away from President Obama's press conference impressed by his composure, but without any real memory of what actually happened. Mainly because I was drunk. But I also sensed that I'd just been sold something that even the seller couldn't entirely comprehend.

See, while I can't expect a vacuum salesman to tell me exactly how the rotating brush works, at the very least he should know where the power button is.

In other words, I don't want our president explaining the joy of "weatherizing homes." His job is to tell us how this stimulus plan stimulates. Meaning, he needs to answer one question: How do massive government programs jump-start an economy?

Because I don't know. And I'm not sure he does either.

I mean, at first, even he said that you can't rely on the government for economic success. Which is true. Until he added: except for now! That only makes sense if you've just downed a bottle of cough syrup. Which, thankfully, I have.

We've all got to realize that reaming the rich never helps the poor.

President Obama maintains that tax cuts for the rich caused this crisis. But he's wrong. Fact is, while he elaborates on the difference between Wall Street and Main Street, we've all realized: There is no difference. When Wall Street suffers, so do we. When the rich become poor, the rest of us become poorer.

Which is why you should send me cash as soon as possible. It's our only hope, basically.

Also, taffy — send me taffy.

By Greg Gutfeld

it makes me feel like an alien getting probed up my ass

ah, another cut and paste classic with no actual input by the poster

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We've all got to realize that reaming the rich never helps the poor.

But reaming the middle class to help the poor so the rich can get richer makes both the rich and poor very happy.

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When the rich become poor, the rest of us become poorer.

Translation.... If corporate millionaires don't get their asses kissed and don't get to party at our expense they'll take it out on the rest of us.

LukeTHr wrote:

ah, another cut and paste classic with no actual input by the poster

Who gives a shit man,alot of other people make my point,or share my thoughts,why should I type it.Or maybe they just thought it was interesting-I don't know why people bitch about cut and paste.................that's what it's friggen' for!!!!!!!!!!

It's just easier to make a brief post as to story content and link to it for those interested. Takes up less space here too as some cut and paste posts were getting veeeeery long.

true also.

I prefer cut and paste as long as its not a damn book myself. Never been a fan of following links, been led to too many nefarious web pages that way.

I think Luke's comment just meant he can read web pages anytime and prefers to read the opinions of other area residents on a subject rather than copied comments from professional spin doctors.

That's not exactly fair, Ratzilla.

'Cause if it weren't for those "comments from professional spin doctors", then EP here would have no opinion at all. Coulter/Gutfeld/Rush/Hannity... those ARE his opinions.

I enjoy an original thought from time to time. Cut -n- Paste or, as I prefer to copy -n- paste, is OK. I think the original author should be credited.

But if it is more than 5 lines....I lose Interest.

mikecc wrote:

I enjoy an original thought from time to time. Cut -n- Paste or, as I prefer to copy -n- paste, is OK. I think the original author should be credited.

But if it is more than 5 lines....I lose Interest.

I agree. It's like lecturing your kids, if you don't get to the point in the first few minutes, their minds wander. Short and to the point is most effective, I believe.

I like a line or a paragraph of a story that will give a good clue as to the story content, and then a link. The story posted in this thread isn't too long for me to read, but it is far right slanted which will make it uninteresting to about half the readers. I will read all opinions and think everyone should. Because unless you hear every angle of a story you will be easy game for these spin doctors.

Greg can't figure out that weatherization programs keep construction workers working. Genius!!!

Construction programs that pay the mexicans that in turn send all that money back to mexico. ergo estímulo.

Hell, I just thought the article was funny.

Tragically funny, as it turns out.

If you look at the first TARP bill, you'll find that the Bush administration told us that the country was about to collapse if it wasn't enacted. Those who opposed it made the prediction that it wouldn't work and another bill would be needed in early 2009. They were ridiculed. After all, this is the United States. We're too big to fail.

On Friday, Congress fulfilled the prophesy of the opposition and passed another panecea of spending. The BO administration told us that the country would collapse if it wasn't passed. Those who opposed it made the prediction that it wouldn't work and another bill will be needed by summer. They were again ridiculed.

On Monday, BO will announce plans for the next spendulous bill. The task force that will determine what needs to be in the next panecea will be headed by Turbo Tax Tim Guethner, who supposedly couldn't figure out his taxes but now is the Treasury Secretary. I don't know about you, but Triple T doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me.

On Friday, statistics were released on kidnappings for 2008. Not surprisingly, Mexico City was the worst major city in the world. The thing that stands out is that the number two city in the world, not in the US, but in the world, is Phoenix, AZ. There were 359 reported kidnappings in Phoenix last year. That's almost one a day. And only about a quarter of the kidnappings that actually take place get reported due to the involvement of illegals.

And how does BO handle it? Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano is now the Homeland Security Secretary.

Make you feel safer?

peg wrote:

Greg can't figure out that weatherization programs keep construction workers working. Genius!!!

If you believe that this payoff to BO's supporters is going to do anything but further fuck the economy, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Maybe the best way to get some perspective on President Obama's $800 billion economic stimulus plan is to compare it with a couple of his predecessor's noteworthy adventures in the art of governance.

Faced with a mild recession in 2001, George W. Bush contended that "a warning light is flashing on the dashboard of our economy, and we just can't drive on and hope for the best. We need tax relief now." His answer was a $1.35 trillion tax cut targeted largely at the wealthy, i.e.. more than 50 percent larger than the Obama initiative.

Enacted with numerous Democratic votes, the Bush tax cuts were supposed to invigorate a sluggish economy. Eight years later, with the aid of a chart prepared by thinkprogress.org, the results are clear. Unemployment has grown from 4 to 7.6 percent and continues to increase frighteningly fast. The economy lost 3.6 million jobs last year, and 600,000 in January alone. The number of persons living in poverty has risen from 12.7 to 17 percent. In 2001, 17 million Americans relied on food stamps; today, 30 million do.

Contrary to GOP dogma, Bush's tax cuts also failed to pay for themselves. As Obama pointed out during his Feb. 9 news conference, the national debt doubled on his predecessor's watch. The Iraq war alone cost several times more than Obama's stimulus plan. Republicans like Sen. John McCain who voted to spend billions rebuilding Iraqi roads, schools and power plants now call it "criminal" to rebuild them here at home.

GOP politicians stood quietly by when Bush's Coalition Provisional Authority air-lifted $12 billion in cash, 363 tons of crisp, shrink-wrapped $100 bills, to Iraq. Then reportedly couldn't account for almost $9 billion of it. As in, the money vanished. Permanently. Odd how quiet the allegedly liberal media's been about it, don't you think? Imagine the uproar had a Democratic administration done that.

The point is the dashboard light is not blinking anymore. The U.S. economy's broken down at the side of the road with black smoke pouring out from under the hood. Fire extinguisher? Completely unnecessary, Republicans chant. Why, Rush Limbaugh says if we'd just cut taxes again, Americans could afford to rotate the tires. The fire will die out eventually. Anything else would be socialism!


http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/252065

peg wrote:

Maybe the best way to get some perspective on...blah, blah, blah...


http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/252065

And how does this partisan nonsense explain how this spendulous bill is going to help anything?

I'll start drawing up the Bill of Sale on that bridge.

You two can argue all you want. Because while you argue we will continue to get hosed and neither republicans or democrats are going to help you because all they care about is blowing enough smoke up your butts to continue getting your votes.

Subject: How the new stimulus plan will work.

Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago , another is from Tennessee , and the third is from Minnesota . All three go with a White House official to examine the fence.

The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. “Well,” he says, “I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me.

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and
figuring, then says, “I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me.”

The Chicago contractor doesn’t measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, “$2,700.” The official, incredulous, says, “You didn’t even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?” The Chicago contractor whispers back, “$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence.” “Done!” replies the government official.

And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work

I wonder what goverment cheese tastes like these days??

We had supper at Chili's last night. Behind me were three guys with a couple of kids in dirty ratty clothes. Heard them say government cheese is pretty good.

Justoo wrote:

We had supper at Chili's last night.

My sympathies.

The Other One wrote:

Justoo wrote:

We had supper at Chili's last night.

My sympathies.

Thanks, agreed.