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PostSubject: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 1:09 am

Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007

Whatever your politics, however you lean, and however you feel about the current administration, this report should open some eyes. Military losses, 1980 through 2007.

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics:
The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2007 - by any cause

1980 .... ...... 2,392 ( Carter Year )
1981 .......... 2,380 ( Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 ( Reagan Year)
1988 ......... 1,819 ( Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 ( George H W Year )
1990 ......... 1,508 ( George H W Year )
1991 ... ....... 1,787 ( George H W Year )
1992 .......... 1,293 ( George H W Year )
1993 ......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 .......... 1,07 5 ( Clinton Year)
1995 ......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 .......... 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ..........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 ............ 890 ( George W Year )
2002 .......... 1,007 ( George W Year )
2003 .......... 1,410 ( George W Year )
2004 .......... 1,887 ( George W Year )
2005 ............ 919 ( George W Year )
2006............. 920 ( George W Year )
2007............ 899 ( George W Year )

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was I. These figures mean that the loss from the two la test conflicts in the Middle East Are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's presidency when America wasn't even involved in a war! (Unless you include Bosnia or the disgrace of Mogadishu, Somalia when Clinton failed to respond to terrorists; Remember 'Blackhawk Down'?)

And, I was even more shocked when I read that in 1980, during the reign of President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter, there were 2,392 US military fatalities! From what? How?

I think that these figures indicate that many members of our Media and our Politicians will pick and choose the information on which they report. Of course we all know that they present only those 'facts' which support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do so many of them march in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get their agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda. Could it be from the most powerful Democrat family of the decade?

Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census of Americans. It shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens, by race:

European descent ..........................69.12%
Hispanic............... ................... 12.5%
Black .................... ............... 12.3%
Asian...................................... 3.7%
Native American............................ 1.0%
Other..................................... 2.6%

Many of the media lead us to feel the military death ratio is off balance compared to the distribution by race in America. Here are the fatalities by RACE over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom. Do the comparison yourself.

European descent (white) ... .......74.31%
Hispanic............................ 10.74%
Black . ............................ 9.67%
Asian............................... 1.81%
Native American..................... 1.09%
Other.............................. 0.33%

I was surprised again. Our mainstream media continues to spin these figures (for political gain). Nothing more. It's all about politics.

I hope that between now and November, intelligent Americans can decipher the facts from the spin, the spinners from the leaders, those who seek even more power from those that seek justice, and the dividers from the uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners and see and hear who tries to divide our nation; and who wants to unite our nation; who wants to control how our money is spent and who wants our mo ney spent the way we would spend it. Who seeks power and who seeks justice? Who spins the facts and who is genuine.

These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and they may be confirmed by anyone at:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 2:37 am

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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 10:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 10:30 pm

Bighead wrote:
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deaths.asp

So 6,500 military deaths during the Clinton years were accident, homicide, illness, or suicide?

Why is that?
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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 10:41 pm

Clinton had 8 years in office as did BUSHY. There were conflicts in the Africa and in Bosnia. There is always the risk of death in alot of military exercises. If you read the paragraph it says that this study was using Table 4. But if you look at table 5 it breaks it down into catgories (SP) of suicide and illness and so forth
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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 10:50 pm

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Why is that?

Don't know.

Don't care much.

Though I would be interested to know how this compares to the general population. But not interested enough to Google it.
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PostSubject: Re: Military Losses....   Military Losses.... Icon_minitimeThu Oct 09, 2008 11:04 pm

Bighead wrote:
nitromaxx98 wrote:

Why is that?

Don't know.

Don't care much.

Though I would be interested to know how this compares to the general population. But not interested enough to Google it.

If it doesn't fit the agenda, not interested.

Rolling Eyes

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