Fred Phelps - judge orders lien on buildings

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It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Does anyone know if they picketed the memorial service for the Ulysses kids who were killed in the car wreck a couple weeks ago? I heard they did but I haven't verified this.

I think the behavior of the Phelps clan is deplorable and inexcusable. I also wonder about their legal right to free speech. What do you think? Should the Phelps's behavior be protected under freedom of speech laws?

I got an email the other day (with pics) that confirmed that they were there.
Locals had gotten advance notice of this. They contacted the Patriot Guard for help. The Patriot Guard informed them that they could not (as the Patriot Guard) assist because this was not a military funeral. However, a very large group of people (many of whom are Patriot Guards) did show up with their Harley's (and other models) to do the very same job the very same way as the Patriot Guard would have.

kasey wrote:: I think the behavior of the Phelps clan is deplorable and inexcusable. I also wonder about their legal right to free speech. What do you think? Should the Phelps's behavior be protected under freedom of speech laws?

When they go do their little protests, they're not doing so peacefully...they try to provoke people. I have no tolerance for their hate speech.

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Here are Justoo's pictures of the memorial service for the Ulysses girls. Justoo, do you want to post the text of the email?

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I believe the text was intended for distribution. I see no harm in portraying heroes for what they are. Heroes.

Everytime I see the photos of the Patriot Guard it renforces my desire to buy another bike. If somebody knows of a decent late 90's early 2000's metric cruiser let me know. I am not having much luck finding a nice one at a resonable price.

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Here's the text from the email Justoo received with the four pictures posted above.

Since I am sending this to friends all over the world I will include an explanation for the pictures. We had four sophomore girls killed in a car accident March 27 in the city limits of Ulysses. Their car which included a fifth girl pulled out in front of a semi truck and trailer. The fifth girl, the driver, is home now and still recovering from serious injuries. It has rocked this community to the core. They were on their lunch time from school. These girls were good girls, a couple into sports, two were cousins and all were inseparable. Everyone knows parents, grandparents, sisters, brothers, many members of the families and of course the girls. I think you could've heard a pin drop in Ulysses Thursday afternoon and evening. Last night was a memorial service for all the girls with separate funerals today and Wednesday. We first came to know of some activity promised for last evening when [an] email was circulated after someone decided to check Fred [Phelps'] website...

Now, to say this sparked some anger is an understatement. The Patriot Guard was contacted. Under their by-laws they cannot attend as a group because the girls were not military. (One of the girls has a father that works for a company currently in Egypt and a brother in Iraq. Both got to come home for the funeral.) However, the Kansas director lives in Dodge City, an hour away, and he felt it was the right thing to do so he came over with a few other people to help us through the events to come. The email circulated Ulysses yesterday morning and by 5:00pm there were 115 bikes from all over Southwest Kansas meeting in a parking lot to get organized and briefed on dos and don'ts. We went as a group to the civic center, parked on the north side of the street and prepared for the demonstrators. They came at 6:15 and left at 7:00 the time limit of their protest permit. In that 45 minutes very little of what they had to say was ever heard. As soon as they would sing, talk or yell we would start our bikes and rev up till they were drowned out. At 7:00 they were escorted out of town by the police and we all quietly disbanded so the memorial service could begin. You will notice in the pictures that our backs are turned to the demonstrators. This is the way the Patriot Guard handles Fred [Phelps'] group. We were instructed that no matter what they said or did we were not to say or do anything and if we didn't think we could handle it to call for help. These people will say and do anything you can imagine to get a response out of you. They will call those young ladies every name in the book, call you every name in the book and all your family members. We were somewhat fortunate that we couldn't hear anything that was said. My bike was one of the ones directly in front of the demonstrators so I just stood by my bike and made sure my bike was heard. They video everything we do so they can sue if one of us gets out of hand in anyway.

We owe a tremendous gratitude to Ralph Rojas, Kansas director of the Patriot Guard and several local members for their efforts.

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Here's the text of the WBC press release that prompted the bikers from SW Kansas to go to Ulysses. If I knew how to post a pdf file I'd post it in its original form, but I don't know how.

Westboro Baptist Church
3701 SW 12th St. Topeka, Kansas 66604 785-273-0325 godhatesfags.com
Religious Opinion and Bible Commentary on Current Events
Friday, March 28, 2008
NEWS RELEASE
Thank God for four more dead
Kansas high school students, killed
Mar. 27, when a semi hit their car.
They died for the sins of Kansas.
God Hates Kansas.
Kansas - Unholy, Ungrateful Land
of the Sodomite Persecutors of
WBC, for preaching God's Word.
God Sent The Semi.
WBC will picket their funerals.
Yes. As always, we will picket in lawful,
respectful proximity to their funerals, in full
compliance with all laws, and in religious
protest and warning; to wit: "Be not
deceived; God is not mocked." Gal. 6:7. God
Hates Fags! & Fag-Enablers. And God hates
those who persecute His people. Ergo, God
hates Kansas, and is executing vengeance.
There is no fear of God before her eyes, and
hence, Kansas is irreversibly doomed.

why was the Guard needed for these girls? I dont think I ve seen the whole story

jessks75 wrote:: why was the Guard needed for these girls? I dont think I ve seen the whole story

the son of a bitches from the WBC decided that they died because of homosexuals too. So the guard came to block there protest

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