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I'd like to hear people's opinions on the "Octomom"?
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She needs help,....many forms.
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she should have NEVER been impregnanted and the doctor should be charged with malpractice
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Her mother says the girl is getting food stamps and three of the first six are getting supplemental SSI because of disabilities. Her mom is po'ed because she is already overwhelmed taking care of the first six and doesn't know how she will be able to care for 8 more of her daughters kids.
The state is paying $16,000 Per day or per hour for the octs to be on life support.
I think she should be charged with putting these children into a potentially dangerous situation.
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she should have NEVER been impregnanted and the doctor should be charged with malpractice

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She's an ass.I think she's sick though-mental probs-the doc is a big ass,he did this,he allowed it to happen.............they BOTH need OCTOSLAPPED!!!! lol!
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"Octoslapped".....LOL, Love it!

I feel for the poor kids, knowing that some of the babies could have been born with severe disabilities or worse, she should be charged with something. My question is this, how'd she afford the invitro procedure anyhow? I'm sure it's not cheap, and if she's getting food stamps and ssi but able to afford to pay for it, why can't they get her for some kind of welfare fraud?
I just feel for the children, they are the one's who will have to suffer from their mother's selfishness. Like many other kiddos these days!!
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Octomom opinions? DocOck2Arms
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I think she should be sterilized.
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The octuplets were a sign from God that she should stop having kids, according to a news teaser this morning. Rolling Eyes

I think she should have stopped before she got started.
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she just likes old James Bond movies. Her favorite is Gold Finger with the character Octopussy
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suzyr wrote:
The octuplets were a sign from God that she should stop having kids, according to a news teaser this morning. Rolling Eyes

I think she should have stopped before she got started.
I agree. I also think she's a nut and that those kids should be farmed out for adoption. Maybe even her original six.
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I think the baby maker needs super glued shut.
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"Octoslapped".....LOL, Love it!

I feel for the poor kids, knowing that some of the babies could have been born with severe disabilities or worse, she should be charged with something. My question is this, how'd she afford the invitro procedure anyhow? I'm sure it's not cheap, and if she's getting food stamps and ssi but able to afford to pay for it, why can't they get her for some kind of welfare fraud?

she has been receiving payments also from an incident that left her severely depressed & hurt her back when she worked at a mental institution...she received almost 200k for it
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Just read that the hospital where the babies were born is asking for the state to pick up the bill. Medi-Cal had not responded to the request. I was also wondering how she paid for the invitro. I know from family members that this procedure is around $15,000.
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I probably ought to be indignant or something, but I just don't give a rat's ass.
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from what TV said, invetro costs 100K.
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Don't know a lot about anything on TV anymore...but, doesn't she live in California and the citizens are not getting their state taxes back this year? Not sure if one has to do with the other, but wow, I would be super p'od about that.

Tried to watch the show last night when she was on...she looked like she was trying to be Angelina Jolie and did her best to say she hasn't even seen one of her movies in "forever" but when they showed past pictures of her, her lips weren't that full...But she claimed that she hadn't had any "touch ups"

I'm betting something happens to her and it won't be fame and fortune.
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Well everything is bigger and better in Calif so maybe it costs that much there, in Az it was $15,000 for one try. No refunds if it doesn't work and frequently it does not.
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I have great respect for single parents who are trying to raise their kids and keep a roof over their heads, and if assistance is the only way they can make it that's what it's in place for. I do have a problem with one having invetro with, as in this case, multiple implants with no means of support or responsible plan. It's the babies that concern me, far more then the money.
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http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/
Here is her web site for all of those that wish to donate, note that it is set up to receive debit and credit cards.
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http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/
Here is her web site for all of those that wish to donate, note that it is set up to receive debit and credit cards.

... and leave comments, but you can't read previously posted comments.
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This morning the figured those babies will cost tax payers 1.3 million a year.
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I would be terribly surprised if those children aren't someday removed from the home. She obviously has little capacity to fully grasp the consequences of her actions. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting children, no matter your socio-economic status. It's natural.
What is not natural is having expensive medical procedures to conceive all those children when you cannot even afford to live on your own and care for them on your own. I think she has a bit of a disconnection with reality problem that will probably result in Child Services stepping in at some point.
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I think anyone already on state assistance that intentionally has even one more kid should be permanently banned from any government benefits.
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just heard on the radio there are death threats against her now......
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the latest is that the hospital may not release the babies to her

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_en_tv/octuplets_dr_phil
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What the hell does Kaiser Permanente, a for profit operation, have to gain by NOT releasing the babies? Does the corporation now have its own private population of people now? The State has already said that it will assign a case worker to observe the family (can it still be called that?) in every setting. 24/7 Government survaillance in their lives.
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What the hell does Kaiser Permanente, a for profit operation, have to gain by NOT releasing the babies?

pick me! pick me! pick me!

I know, I know! Octomom opinions? Jumping-smiley-025
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OK....You got theory on the matter? Bouncey Bob.
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Nah. Just wanted to use that bouncy smiley.

Too bad Californians (and the rest of us) will foot the bill for these kids, though. The hospital will only rake in more guaranteed money by keeping the babies there. What else would they have to gain, but moolah?
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Octo-Mom Gets $1 Million Porn Offer From Vivid Entertainment

Octopussy?

Octomom opinions? 733732 Sorry she ain't no Beauty Queen, besides who would they get to do the dastarly deed...... Ron Jeremy?Octomom opinions? 733732
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Octo-Mom Gets $1 Million Porn Offer From Vivid Entertainment

Octopussy?

Octomom opinions? 733732 Sorry she ain't no Beauty Queen, besides who would they get to do the dastarly deed...... Ron Jeremy?Octomom opinions? 733732

Even Ron has standards. Octomom opinions? 733732
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I think all of her children should be taken away. It's one thing to have 14 kids, but its another when she is single, with no job and her parents are even pissed about the whole ordeal. Granted she's trying to get book deals, but who's going to want to buy a book about this moron. Also, I heard of Fox News this morning that someone offered her a house with care for the babies and she never responded. They also said how she's thinking about moving because her neighbor came out of the house the other day with a shotgun, and the house she was looking was over 1 mil. I think she did this all to get attention but it all went downhill after everyone found out she already had 6 kids.

I'm sure her parents flipped the bill for the invetro, they just don't want to admit it.

I think octomom is going to be on Dr. Phil today... or sometime this week. I'm setting the dvr, I'm sure he will rip her a new one!
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But on what basis do you reccomend the children be removed for?
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In China they limit the size of the family unit. Do you want that here? Forced abortions, forced sterilization, monetary fines and jail time?
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I'm sure her parents flipped the bill for the invetro, they just don't want to admit it.



Her mother has said that Nadya used the money she recieved in the settlement regarding her back injury. I assume they tried to get her to pay them rent and stuff, but you can't *make* someone give you money if you're unwilling to follow through on consequences.
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But on what basis do you reccomend the children be removed for?

Because she's unfit. She should've known that with her first implant 6 kids came from the deal. The dr. wanted to implant another 6, and she knew that with the success of the last one that the same could've happened. She could've told the dr. to implant less but she didn't. She has no clue how she's going to pay for these children and according to the news many will probably end up with health issues since they were born so prematurely. There is no WAY she can care for all 14 children by herself with her parents. Her parents are going to be overwhelmed. If I were her parents I would make her do it all on her own. She made this bed by herself... now she should sleep in it by herself!
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She should've known that with her first implant 6 kids came from the deal.
What? Her other 6 kids are of varying ages... not all from one implantation.
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What makes her unfit? As a mother of 6 kids already, who could be more fit?
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I was watching FOX News before lunch and they were talking live to a correspondent in CA and she said something about the porn industry offering Octomom a 4 million dollar contract to do some movies....I don't think they were documentary's....
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cost tax payers 1.3 million a year.


Shocked How the heck is that? Gold cribs? I mean really how'd they come up with that number?
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cost tax payers 1.3 million a year.


Shocked How the heck is that? Gold cribs? I mean really how'd they come up with that number?

$1,300,300/8babies/365days per year=$445.21 pre day, per child. ICU with the government (i.e. us) footing the bill? Easy to see.
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I have a feeling that this is all about feeding her need for attention. She's had more than her 15 minutes of fame. The media needs to just stop indulging her.
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Let her raise her family in peace. She has her Government overlord assigned.
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There is a reason that state laws (at least in kansas) limit the number of children a daycare provider can watch at any one time. Number vary based on the age of children and if the provider is registered vs. license, but I don't think it is ever over 10. The law is to protect the children. In theory, a daycare provider is trained (IN THEORY) and has to go through certain steps to become registered or licensed to be deemed fit to watch children. Sadly, there is no such thing for a parent, no such training, no such laws, restrictions. There is NO WAY this lady will be able to provide for this many children when she can't provide for herself. I predict that this family will not be kept together, which is sad, but probably best for the kids. Social Services will monitor this case closely and will hopefully step in to protect the children. I could care less what rights the mother thinks she has, people need to think of what is best for these kids, remember they didn't ask for any of this.
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A daycare provider is not a family unit.

In China they limit the size of the family unit. Do you want that here? Forced abortions, forced sterilization, monetary fines and jail time?

"There is NO WAY this lady will be able to provide for this many children when she can't provide for herself."

She never did look like she, or her family, were doing any worse than anyone else, better than some.

Social Services will monitor this case closely. They will 24/7 servailance by a Gaovernment Agent, in home.

"I could care less what rights the mother thinks she has, people need to think of what is best for these kids, remember they didn't ask for any of this."

The parent HAS no rights, remember this. Its called our society.

Perhaps we need to obtian a certificate of parenthood before anyone has a child? lol, What kind of standards shall there be? Will there be a written test? Will you have to be required to play a musical instrament? Perhaps they will require you to cite from memory 10 verses from the Quran. Who will set the standards?
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This thread is actually a bit funny when you hear the "mother has no rights" and in a thread just started people screaming over the UN Children's Rights measure as a violation of parental authority. Gotta love the whole juxtaposition of things being totally different when you're getting into someone else's business as opposed to someone getting into your business.
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