Pagans

Are there any pagans on here? If so, are you "out" and open about it, or do you fear letting people know?

I used to date a Pagan, i.e., Pagan Motorcycle Gang.

lisav wrote:

I used to date a Pagan, i.e., Pagan Motorcycle Gang.

Really? Havn't seen any of them in ages.


To answer the question though, I'm not a Pagan by definition, but I think anyone celebrating Christmas is a little Pagan and just doesn't know it. You put up a Christmas tree, or a wreath? You exchange gifts? Ever sing carols? Decorate you tree with lights or ornaments? Have a big dinner? Use mistletoe and holly? That's all Pagan friend. Merry Christmas..

Does the fact that I serve THOR qualify me as a pagan?

I knew one pagan gal in Hace. She wasn't exactly 'out' to most people, though. Wouldn't go over well with most local Chermans.

Really, and that was when I lived back east, a few lifetimes ago...

Pagan name generator

All hail Devi Athame Amber! (That would be me)

I bet everyone on here has at least met or interacted with a pagan and didn't know it. I know there are quite a few around but most are afraid to let people in Hays know. Says a lot for the "freedom of religion" doesn't it?

Hard to be a "true" Pagan. I imagine, just probably an aversion to organized Religion. Kinda like finding a true Athiest.

Actually, not so hard. I know several.

I have my own religion and its called The Church of DX

mikecc wrote:

Hard to be a "true" Pagan. I imagine, just probably an aversion to organized Religion. Kinda like finding a true Athiest.

I am true athiest

are not

R2D2

mikecc wrote:

are not

Why do you doubt me?

slickjay12 wrote:

mikecc wrote:

are not

Why do you doubt me?

Because to state that someone is a Neocon, means that you understand that there is God, therefore, by association, you admit there is God. Obama accepts God. Is Obama a Neocon by association?

LMAOROTFL

Neoconservative: An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s; moderate political conservatism espoused or advocated by former liberals or socialists.

AND, by your reasoning, if my daughter believes that a fat man in a red suit comes into our house once a year with presents for her, that means I have to believe it as well?? Um, no. All I have to do is believe that she believes it and respect that. In this particular case, by allowing her to recieve gifts from "Santa" that are actually provided by her parents.

An atheist does not have to believe in God to acknowledge that other people do. It's called respecting others beliefs.

What? There's no Santa Claus????

We used to have an athiest on the old site, not sure if he's ever joined this site. His name was DHM (Dope Hat Man.)

Never hit the refresh button after replying...

DHM was just on a few days ago.

mikecc wrote:

Hard to be a "true" Pagan. I imagine, just probably an aversion to organized Religion. Kinda like finding a true Athiest.

Not so much an aversion to organized religion as an aversion to jealous cruel man gods. One of my biggest problems with religion is mans insistance that his gods must be just a super version of himself that looks over everyone and cares for them, yet at the same time punishes him for not being an obedient slave. It's stupid primitive thought.

ok...this is a dumb ?...i'm not religious at all...what the hell is a pagan?

CountryGirl wrote:

ok...this is a dumb ?...i'm not religious at all...what the hell is a pagan?

They believe in the power of nature and their god/godesses are more of a go with that natural flow type entity than the typical mainstream religions whose gods torture and kill you for not being a good sniveling subservient dog.

Ratzilla wrote:

CountryGirl wrote:

ok...this is a dumb ?...i'm not religious at all...what the hell is a pagan?

They believe in the power of nature and their god/godesses are more of a go with that natural flow type entity than the typical mainstream religions whose gods torture and kill you for not being a good sniveling subservient dog.

Actually, paganism applies to anyone that follows a polytheistic religion such as the Gods and Goddesses of the Celtic, Roman, Greek or Viking pantheon.

Isn't Paganism also heavy into nature and universal powers? Sun moon wind fire etc?

Dancing around maypoles with flowers in your hair.

Yes, Ratzilla- you're thinking of the Wiccans. They fall under the broader term "Pagan".

My Supreme Commandress says that she's always liked Wicca because they get to wear great accessories. But it's still nonsense.

I think Wicca falls into neopaganism, but it's the most popular. I might like to see that naked dancing under the moon if they aren't all cellulite covered crones. But yeah no matter the religion or it's beliefs and practices it's still just another form of bones, rattles, and superstitions to try to comfort them from the unknown.

Albinos in Tanzania are due to hold their first ever demonstration later today to protest against the killing of members of their community for ritual purposes.

One of the organisers of the protest, Ernest Kimaaya, says they will put pressure on the government to do more to protect albinos.

About 30 albinos, some of them babies, have been killed in the past year and their body parts made into potions by witchdoctors who allege they make people richer.

No link?



I smell an onion.

lol, just google "Albinos in Tanzania" and see what pops up.

What in the world would prompt you to google albinos in tanzania?

Try a little Lok-tite® on that loose screw.

CountryGirl wrote:

ok...this is a dumb ?...i'm not religious at all...what the hell is a pagan?

The definition of Pagan, from Wikipedia (it's long... so bare with me)

The term pagan is from the Latin paganus, an adjective originally meaning "rural", "rustic" or "of the country." As a noun, paganus was used to mean "country dweller, villager."[5] The semantic development of post-classical Latin paganus in the sense "non-Christian, heathen" is unclear. The dating of this sense is controversial, but the 4th century seems most plausible. An earlier example has been suggested in Tertullian De Corona Militis xi, "Apud hunc [sc. Christum] tam miles est paganus fidelis quam paganus est miles infidelis," but here the word paganus may be interpreted in the sense "civilian" rather than "heathen". There are three main explanations of the development:

* (i) The older sense of classical Latin pāgānus is "of the country, rustic" (also as noun). It has been argued that the transferred use reflects the fact that the ancient idolatry lingered on in the rural villages and hamlets after Christianity had been generally accepted in the towns and cities of the Roman Empire; cf. Orosius Histories 1. Prol. "Ex locorum agrestium compitis et pagis pagani vocantur." From its earliest beginnings, Christianity spread much more quickly in major urban areas (like Antioch, Alexandria, Corinth, Rome) than in the countryside (in fact, the early church was almost entirely urban), and soon the word for "country dweller" became synonymous with someone who was "not a Christian," giving rise to the modern meaning of "Pagan." This may, in part, have had to do with the closeness to nature of rural people, who may have been more resistant to the new ideas of Christianity than those who lived in major urban centers and were cut off from the cycles of nature and the forms of spirituality associated with them. However, it may have also resulted from early Christian missionaries focusing their efforts within major population centers (e.g., St. Paul), rather than throughout an expansive, yet sparsely populated, countryside (hence, the Latin term suggesting "uneducated country folk") until a bit later on.
* (ii) The more common meaning of classical Latin pāgānus is "civilian, non-militant" (adjective and noun). Christians called themselves mīlitēs, "enrolled soldiers" of Christ, members of his militant church, and applied to non-Christians the term applied by soldiers to all who were "not enrolled in the army".
* (iii) The sense "heathen" arose from an interpretation of paganus as denoting a person who was outside a particular group or community, hence "not of the city" or "rural"; cf. Orosius Histories 1. Prol. "ui alieni a civitate dei..pagani vocantur." See C. Mohrmann, Vigiliae Christianae 6 (1952) 9ff.

-- Oxford English Dictionary, (online) 2nd Edition (1989)

The post-classical Latin paganismus gave rise to both paganism and to its synonym paynimry.[6] Paynimry may be used of paganism, its practises, and pagans,[7] as well as for the domain or realm of pagans.[8]

"Peasant" is a cognate, via Old French paisent. [9]

In their distant origins, these usages derived from pagus, "province, countryside", cognate to Greek πάγος "rocky hill", and, even earlier, "something stuck in the ground", as a landmark: the Proto-Indo-European root *pag- means "fixed" and is also the source of the words page, pale (stake), and pole, as well as pact and peace.

While pagan is attested in English from the 14th century, there is no evidence that the term paganism was in use in English before the 17th century. The OED instances Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776): "The divisions of Christianity suspended the ruin of paganism." The term was not a neologism, however, as paganismus was already used by Augustine.[10]

Less than twenty years after the last vestiges of paganism were crushed with great severity by the emperor Theodosius I[11] Rome was seized by Alaric in 410. This led to murmuring that the gods of paganism had taken greater care of the city than that of the Christian God, inspiring St Augustine to write The City of God, alternative title "De Civitate Dei contra Paganos: The City of God against the Pagans", in which he claimed that whilst the great 'city of Man' had fallen, Christians were ultimately citizens of the 'city of God.'[12]

You really think 'countrygirl' (aka S.A.C.?) is gonna read that?

Anybody dumb enough to ask the question isn't gonna read a Wikipedia article.

Bighead wrote:

You really think 'countrygirl' (aka S.A.C.?) is gonna read that?

Anybody dumb enough to ask the question isn't gonna read a Wikipedia article.

Countrygirl is not Sweat SAC

sweet

slickjay12 wrote:

Bighead wrote:

You really think 'countrygirl' (aka S.A.C.?) is gonna read that?

Anybody dumb enough to ask the question isn't gonna read a Wikipedia article.

Countrygirl is not Sweat SAC

I dunno... walks like a duck. Quacks like a duck.

Bighead wrote:

You really think 'countrygirl' (aka S.A.C.?) is gonna read that?

Anybody dumb enough to ask the question isn't gonna read a Wikipedia article.

You only prove what an idiot you truely are. May one day you become a fraction of the person she is.

One other thing about most pagans is that they are incredibly open minded and warm people. Most of them feel that if you have a religion that suits you it's wonderful and will never try to dissuade or convert you. Many also follow the "do no harm" rule. Believing that what you put out will come back to you seven-fold, whether it be for good or ill.

The churches many years ago also treated Pagans in a very warm way. Tied to a stake..

CelticDragon wrote:

One other thing about most pagans is that they are incredibly open minded and warm people. Most of them feel that if you have a religion that suits you it's wonderful and will never try to dissuade or convert you. Many also follow the "do no harm" rule. Believing that what you put out will come back to you seven-fold, whether it be for good or ill.

True enough. I may not be able to take their religion too seriously... but I've never met a Pagan that I didn't like.

I try not to judge someone based on their religion because some very holy types have helped me, most likely doing their nice deeds out of religious beliefs. But I can like someone who does good in the name of their religion and still not like their religion. That said, I can't ever recall a Pagan wanting to ban beer, bikinis, adult stores, or anything in them. I never remember hearing a Pagan shout damnation on anyone. They seem almost as easy going as the Amish without being so serious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3y_V0M3Pw

That Yankovic is one funny guy

That video is great and all... but just out of curiosity- what does it have to do with Pagans?

It don't Bighead. He was just following up on my comment. I heard the assclown who wrote the song Al was making fun of made serious threats against him. Gotta be a real tough guy to threaten Weird Al.