Fitting Tribute

To coincide with Obama's 50th birthday, ABC announced on Wednesday that an updated version of the game show "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire" will debut in their fall primetime lineup. The new show will be called "Who Wants To Be On Welfare."

in honor of obamas birthday all those milli-billi naires freed up some of that hoarded money from frivolous tax incentives and gave jobs to millions... because thats what they do when we give them tax cuts... Happy Birthday mr prezeeedent!!!

robert wrote:

in honor of obamas birthday all those milli-billi naires freed up some of that hoarded money from frivolous tax incentives and gave jobs to millions... because thats what they do when we give them tax cuts... Happy Birthday mr prezeeedent!!!

Another case made for the FAIR TAX.

Looks like Standard & Poore's gave him a birthday present he'll never forget. Hopefully the voters will remember in November 2012. He was so concerned that he went off to hide at Camp David for a long weekend. Fiddling while Rome burns...

lol

“If elected President, I pledge to veto any unbalanced budget and to balance the federal budget in the first year of my term. I will fight to reduce taxes and remove unconstitutional regulations so that businesses can hire, Americans can get back to work, and our economy can truly recover.” — Ron Paul

The Other One wrote:

“If elected President, I pledge to veto any unbalanced budget and to balance the federal budget in the first year of my term. I will fight to reduce taxes and remove unconstitutional regulations so that businesses can hire, Americans can get back to work, and our economy can truly recover.” — Ron Paul

hahahaha! We should all live in fear of the success of foolish men...

robert wrote:

The Other One wrote:

“If elected President, I pledge to veto any unbalanced budget and to balance the federal budget in the first year of my term. I will fight to reduce taxes and remove unconstitutional regulations so that businesses can hire, Americans can get back to work, and our economy can truly recover.” — Ron Paul

hahahaha! We should all live in fear of the success of foolish men...

Absolutely. Fools are running the country right now. How's that working out?

The only candidate for president who repeatedly predicted the financial crisis is the only candidate with the guts to fix it.

exactly how is he going to "fix it". Im genuinely curious. i think im familiar with this argument.. just wanna be for sure... is he gonna cut those nasty entitlements?... maybe end a war or two? cut taxes? create a "more business friendly climate' to increase job growth?

At least Ron Paul has ideas that are not dictated by his party. At least Ron doesn't trumpet the glories of his party no matter how wrong they are. At least Ron isn't afraid of offending his party, or the other, by telling the truth.

Maybe he couldn't balance the budget as easily as that. I'm sure he'd have opposition from both parties to his ideas. But at least he knows corporate bailouts and undeserved feel good handouts on any level aren't the answer to rebuilding the country and he should get a chance to try.

robert wrote:

exactly how is he going to "fix it". Im genuinely curious. i think im familiar with this argument.. just wanna be for sure... is he gonna cut those nasty entitlements?... maybe end a war or two? cut taxes? create a "more business friendly climate' to increase job growth?

Since you seem to pride yourself on research and I have no desire to waste my slow-typing time explaining, you should get a copy of his book, Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom, and find out for yourself.

The Other One wrote:

robert wrote:

exactly how is he going to "fix it". Im genuinely curious. i think im familiar with this argument.. just wanna be for sure... is he gonna cut those nasty entitlements?... maybe end a war or two? cut taxes? create a "more business friendly climate' to increase job growth?

Since you seem to pride yourself on research and I have no desire to waste my slow-typing time explaining, you should get a copy of his book, Liberty Defined: 50 Essential Issues That Affect Our Freedom, and find out for yourself.

dont know or cant articulate?

went to the campaign site... he was against raising debt ceiling...., for cut, cap and balance.... uh oh... i could get this from either of the other two parties... what are you and he revolting against again?

excerpt:

"There are diverse beliefs within the libertarian community, but the common theme is either the minimization or elimination of the state, and a goal of maximizing individual liberty and freedom. However, the libertarian philosophy of individual liberty and freedom for some means subjugation and discrimination of all others. Congressman Ron Paul’s style of libertarianism is the far-right brand that incites him to call for the elimination of government programs such as FEMA and Social Security. On Friday, Paul repeated his call for eliminating FEMA and when reminded that much of the country is suffering from natural disasters, he said that people who are in the path of a wildfire or tornado are dumb for being there. According to Paul’s brand of libertarianism, government has no place being involved in anything except national defense, and he does not see the need for government to take care of its citizens.

In an interview with Chris Matthews, Paul said he would not have voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because it infringed on personal rights of property owners. Libertarians believe that if a property owner or business wants to deny service to anyone based on race, it is their right because it is their business. Regardless of the issues or government programs Matthews brought up to Paul, his answers always reverted to, “I think we would be better off if we had freedom, and not government control of our lives, our personal lives.” The basic premise of libertarians is closely aligned with the selfishness of Ayn Rand and a belief that the individual is responsible for their lot in life. In effect, they do not believe in freedoms for all Americans, and that if a person is Black and has to face discrimination, it is their problem. On the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act, Paul gave a speech calling it “an unconstitutional attack on individual liberty because it gave the government unprecedented power over customer service practices on every business in the country.” Paul went on to say that, “The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties.” The congressman seems to forget that the Constitution gives every citizen the right to equal protection under the law, but selfish libertarians give precedent to an individual’s right to deny freedoms to other Americans.

It is not just individual liberty that defines libertarians. They believe that taxes to fund schools, roads, and other infrastructure are unconstitutional and that individuals are responsible for building roads, schools and hospitals for personal use. America with libertarians in control would be the Koch Brothers’ vision of America where there is no central government and in its place is a conglomeration of industrialists who use taxpayer money to support a business-model government where roads, schools, hospitals, bridges, and the military is privatized for the purpose of generating profit for the owners. If Ron Paul were president, the federal government would be eliminated and individual rights and freedoms would be reserved for those wealthy enough to own the government.

Americans do not always realize the benefits and protections they receive from the government. Ron Paul said the Civil Rights Act did not stop racism and he is absolutely correct, but it did guarantee that overt racial prejudice and discrimination would not be tolerated in a free society. FEMA may not be the ideal entity that all citizens benefit from all the time, but when natural disaster strikes, every person who suffers property loss benefits. Under libertarian rule, a wildfire, hurricane, or tornado victim would be left on their own and called “dumb” by a leader like Ron Paul."


http://www.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-libertarian-disaster

oh... hes one of them....

Our grandparents and their parents lived without a government tit. Can't you?

Ratzilla wrote:

Our grandparents and their parents lived without a government tit. Can't you?

actually what you meant to say was that they tried to... but decided it would be better to have one just in case....

The Social Security program began in the 1930s in the United States against the backdrop of economic hardships created by the Great Depression. The roots of an economic security program are much older, extending back to the 19th-century Europe. Changes in society gave rise to the program, as well.

Geography
As a consequence of the Industrial Revolution of the 19th century, wage-earning jobs in U.S. urban centers began to replace the family farm and extended family as a source of economic security. In 1890, less than one-third of Americans lived in cities. By 1930, more than half of them did.

History
The idea of a national economic security program developed in 19th century Europe. Germany instituted the first Social Security program in 1889 under then-Chancellor Otto von Bismarck.

Significance
In the United States, the Great Depression of the 1930s caused high unemployment and economic stress nationwide, leading President Franklin D. Roosevelt to announce in 1934 his intention to provide a Social Security program.

Time Frame
President Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act into law on August 14, 1935. The program began by making lump sum payments to retirees until 1940, when monthly benefit payments began.

Benefits
Amendments to the Social Security Act in 1939 provided for survivor and dependent benefits. Automatic cost of living adjustments for Social Security recipients began in the 1970s, to protect the benefits from losing value to inflation.

Fun Fact
The first reported applicant for Social Security was Ernest Ackerman of Cleveland, Ohio. He retired one day after the program began. Five cents were withheld from his pay during his one day of participation in the program. After retiring, he received a lump sum benefit of 17 cents.



Read more: Why Was Social Security Created? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_4896851_why-was-social-security-created.html#ixzz1UTdja8sS

for fun you should google some of these:

why were police departments created?
why were municipal fire departments created?
why was the epa created?
why was the food and drug administration created?
why was the dept of veterans affairs created?
why was the dept of fish and game created?
health and environment, parks and recreation, center for disease control....

lol ride that revolution train to the glory of yesteryear... i cant in good conscience buy a ticket for that ride

Wow. Ernie tripled his investment. Wonder how many months it took him to get the check?

robert wrote:

The idea of a national economic security program developed in 19th century Europe. Germany instituted the first Social Security program in 1889 under then-Chancellor Otto von Bismarck.

Yeah, and that was real successful. People who signed up for the program at age 20 got....Hitler.

So bobby wants to cherry-pick things out of context and deride them without any explanation, or go to an ultra-leftwing website that distorts everything uttered by opponents. Typical.

Funny robert how you forgot the difference between FDR's ideas and modern liberalism. Some of my own relatives suffered during the depression. They went to work in WPA and CCC camps. But you see robert, they "worked" for their government assistance and lived in military like camps doing things for the good of their community or country. We all benefitted from helping them unlike now where we have vast numbers of useless parasites on modern day government assistance.

There's a huge difference between working for your keep and government handing out tax free cash to every lazy asshole who doesn't want to work. And if you listened to much from Ron Paul you'd know he's not suggesting we abandon everyone who "worked" for their social security checks,. He's looking for ways to keep future generations from having to worry about their hard earned retirement being handed out to every jerk that wants a free ride.

If the US government was a family and their household income was $55,000 per year, they’d actually be spending $96,500, or $41,500 more than they made. That means they’re spending 175% of their annual income. So, in 2011 they’d add $41,500 of debt to their current credit card debt of $366,000.