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PostSubject: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSun Apr 04, 2010 11:15 pm

If this had been some guy doing this , I am willing to bet he would have to register as a sex offender. This chick gets a ticket for disorderly conduct mailed to her. This country is screwed up.

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(CNN) -- Erykah Badu's naked stroll through downtown Dallas, Texas, for a music video has earned her a disorderly conduct citation.

The singer shed her clothes as she walked through Dealey Plaza until she was nude and then fell near where President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

Badu said the video was "shot guerrilla style," without a crew and in one take March 17.

A Dallas Police spokeswoman said earlier in the week that they wanted to press charges against Badu because children were present, but no one had called police or filed a complaint that day.

Police now have their witness.

"One witness did come forward yesterday, thus leading to the charges filed today," a statement from Dallas Police said Friday.

A citation of misdemeanor disorderly conduct has been mailed to Badu, who is a Dallas resident, police said.


In a video, Erykah Badu strips in Dealey Plaza, the location of President Kennedy's 1963 assassination."After much discussion, it has been determined that this charge best fits her conduct when she disrobed in a public place without disregard [sic] to other individuals and children who were in close proximity," the police statement said. If convicted, Badu could be fined $500, police said.

"It will be up to her as to how she wants to proceed further with this case," police said. "She can contest it in a court of law or simply pay the fine."

Badu and her representatives did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

She did post a series of short messages on the social networking site Twitter last weekend, soon after the "Window Seat" video was released on her Web site.

She tweeted that "there were children there. i prayed they wouldnt b traumatized."


a guy can pee late at nite in an alley and he gets indecent exposure and is considered a sex offender. She does this in broad daylight in FRONT OF CHILDREN and gets disorderly conduct. Again, What a Crock-O-Shit...
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSun Apr 04, 2010 11:36 pm

The problem here isn't the she only got disorderly conduct. I agree with that much.

The problem is that we as a society are so goddamn hysterical about sex crimes that a guy pissing in an alley is labeled as a 'sex offender'.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeMon Apr 05, 2010 12:14 am

yeah I know what ya mean bighead, its gotten absurd.. She does it as an "artist" and its protected under the 1st ammendment. The guy does it out of necessity and he gets labeled as a monster. this is one fucked up country anymore
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeMon Apr 05, 2010 12:17 am

Sex offender laws have been messed up for awhile. There seems to be a feel good attitude that if you get rid of a sex offender that all the world will be safe. There is also a serious bias at times. According to some studies as many as 40% of sex offenders are women. Real sex offenders that is, not indecent exposure.

They stated that women often get off the sex offender hook by claiming their men forced them to do it. They also stated that most female sex offenders are never caught because they abuse children under 6 and quit once the child becomes uncomfortable about it. They said they are not typically suspect if they take children into bathrooms and shut the door while society has been conditioned to always think men alone with children are up to something wrong.

And I think the sympathy that's shown for female teachers having affairs with boys in their class shows the double standard best. If a male teacher is caught with a 13 year old student there is never sympathy. I've pointed out the feminist slant on sex laws before. This just further proves I'm not just a woman hater as you have suggested Bighead. Some laws favor women when they can be just as bad as men.

All that aside, I don't think being nude in public or taking a leak deserves the sex offender label. Personally I would reserve that for forced or coerced physical sexual contact with either adult or minor. And I would also apply the laws to contact with younger kids even if they participate willingly.

As far as teens go, I say if government is going to allow them to aquire birth control and abortions without parental consent, that no adult should be charged with a sex crime if that teen was a willing partner. Make all the rules even and fair one way or another, or none at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeMon Apr 05, 2010 7:17 am

or update children s rights from 18-26 to 5yrs old.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeMon Apr 05, 2010 12:25 pm

I never suggested that you were a woman-hater, Ratzilla... I just said that you have control issues. And it isn't just with women. You feel a need to control young folks, too.

But I mostly agree with your post.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeMon Apr 05, 2010 2:41 pm

Everyone needs some control Bighead. For anyone who's responsible I'd say that should be self control. Kids don't seem good at self control. And I've said before. I'm not about controlling women, I'm about women not controlling me.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeTue Apr 06, 2010 12:48 am

Another double standard on this is that I've seen several boys under 18 on lists. Some as young as 13 or 14, but I havn't seen any girls under 18 on the lists. And I know older girls sometimes play with younger boys because I saw it happen when I was a kid. A 15 year old girl took two boys about 10 or 11 into a shed and "educated" them.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeWed Apr 07, 2010 9:34 pm

sex offender lists are messed up. I have seen stories and articles of a young man being placed on the list for having sex with his GF because the parents busted them few years later the same two kids are married with kids of their own yet the male is still on the list. to me the list should be split up more then what it is with explainations of what the different charges are and there should be limits to how long "minor offenses" are on the list and the perverted scums who molest children should be on the list for ever, but how many of us that are on this forum would more then likely be on the sex offender list if it was created say in 1960. I am not a betting man but i would place a bet that most of us would be on that list now for one reason or another just take a moment and think of the things you may or may not of done when you were a yound teenager.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeThu Apr 08, 2010 1:10 am

I have peed in a few bushes in my day...Does that count? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeThu Apr 08, 2010 4:28 am

Yeah, I peed on many a bush. I doubt there's many backyards and alleys that havn't had it happen.

I agree the list needs totally reworked. Personally I think it should only be available to law enforcement anyways. There was an incident where a mans neighbors decided they didn't want him living there and firebombed his house. He wasn't home, but his two daughters were and were killed in the name of public safety when fire blocked the only escape route.

As I see it, if someone is considered so dangerous that you need to inform the public they shouldn't be on the streets anyways. And if they are on the list because of something that isn't a risk to the general public they shouldn't even be on one.

The only problem is that if you rework or stop the sex offender list someone will have to take the place of it. America seems to need someone to hate and blame for everyone's problems and failures. Can't hate minorities anymore, or gays, so that won't work. Can't hate those with drug addiction or disease anymore. Can't hate someone because of their religion even if it is a psychopathic belief. But at least there's still us smokers to stomp on.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeFri Apr 09, 2010 5:26 pm

Hell, go to Yemen and they even condone marrige.... tho the results are often tragic.

12 year old newly wed dies after intercourse
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeFri Apr 09, 2010 5:48 pm

Bizarre as it sounds, one US colony and I think maybe it was Denmark that allowed men to marry a 7 year old in the 1600's. And in Denmark that age was decided by the Lutheran church. Maybe it was a way to get rid of orphans. Craziness goes both directions in sex laws.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeFri Apr 09, 2010 6:11 pm

A century ago, it wasn't uncommon at all for a grown man to marry a 12 year old girl. It's still common in Mexico- or so I've read.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeFri Apr 09, 2010 7:38 pm

Yeah, that's correct. It says that about Mexico on a worldwide age of consent website I linked it below. I think The Phillipines allows unmarried sex with 12 year old girls but only if no cash is paid. There's a couple other nations where 12 is the age for girls. N and S Korea the age to marry is 13 for girls, and Muslim law allows the marriage of any girl who has reached puberty, but most Muslim nations law doesn't reflect that. Oman and Pakistan though, do not have age of consent laws. Most countries have lower age for girls. Age of consent is confusing in some cases though as other contradictory laws exist.

Until the US threatened boycotts most of Europe and Russia were pretty loose too. Until Reagan made threats against them in the early 80's there was no such thing as illegal porn in Denmark. The Reagan administration began a big crackdown largely due to the lolita fascination much of Europe and Asia had going on.

The US has always struck me odd on sex laws. You can jail a person over 16 for sex with someone under 16, but they can give contraception to 6th graders in schools. We have laws in every state against sex with animals that are often combined with animal cruelty laws, yet I never have heard of anyone being imprisoned for stuffing gerbils up their butt and letting the damn thing squirm as it suffocates. We have an odd mix of morality here.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeFri Apr 09, 2010 11:04 pm

Hell that site shows it is Illegal to have gay or lebian sex in Kansas
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSat Apr 10, 2010 1:12 am

slickjay12 wrote:
Hell that site shows it is Illegal to have gay or lebian sex in Kansas
You got a problem with that? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSat Apr 10, 2010 5:18 am

slickjay12 wrote:
Hell that site shows it is Illegal to have gay or lebian sex in Kansas

It may still be on the books that way. Just a couple decades back it was punishable by long prison sentences in some states and if my memory is right in Kansas it was up to life in the pen at one time. It's kind of ironic that for centuries men married young girls, and homosexuals (especially male) were considered an abomination only to have it completely reversed.

A male dominated world favored the male idea of Utopia. Virginal females were desirable and homosexuals were considered mentally ill, or even evil depending on the mindset of the observer. Females in politics have strived to take that male Utopia down. No Bighead, that observation is not a control thing. It's fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSat Apr 10, 2010 10:30 am

Ratzilla wrote:
Another double standard on this is that I've seen several boys under 18 on lists. Some as young as 13 or 14, but I havn't seen any girls under 18 on the lists. And I know older girls sometimes play with younger boys because I saw it happen when I was a kid. A 15 year old girl took two boys about 10 or 11 into a shed and "educated" them.
I'm confused, did she educate them with garden tools??? LOL!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSat Apr 10, 2010 10:55 am

Degeneration X wrote:
Ratzilla wrote:
Another double standard on this is that I've seen several boys under 18 on lists. Some as young as 13 or 14, but I havn't seen any girls under 18 on the lists. And I know older girls sometimes play with younger boys because I saw it happen when I was a kid. A 15 year old girl took two boys about 10 or 11 into a shed and "educated" them.
I'm confused, did she educate them with garden tools??? LOL!!!!!

Heard there were battery operated tools and a hoe involved. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Sex offender double standard   Sex offender double standard Icon_minitimeSat Apr 10, 2010 6:18 pm

Yeah, I'd say some kind of a hoe was involved. The girl was sex crazed. I never asked what happened exactly, but both boys came out looking redfaced and nervous and she came out grinning. And no, I didn't go in with them. She was kinda homely.
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