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PostSubject: Drill Here, Drill Now - The Song   Drill Here, Drill Now - The Song Icon_minitimeWed Sep 10, 2008 2:06 pm

New song released by country singer Aaron Tippin. Wasn't he at the Wild West Fest a couple of years ago?

You can listen to the preview or download the entire song here.

Hello…..Is anybody out there listenin’ in Washington D.C.
This is the suffering voice of America crying out for relief
Now I don’t know what a gallon of gas costs up on Capitol Hill
But we sure know what it costs down here in Realityville
And the damage already done has been a mighty heavy toll
And if we’re gonna fix it we gotta start right here at home

Drill here, drill now
How ‘bout some oil from our own soil that belongs to us anyhow
No more debatin’ we’re tired of waitin’ everybody shout out loud
Drill here, drill now

Every time a foreign tanker pulls up to our shore
They got us over a barrel while they bleed us a little more
And think how much it costs just to bring it all that way
And how many American jobs that’d make if we were drillin’ in the USA
Oh and God forbid if our oily friends should decide to cut us off
We’d be standin’ around with our britches down now listen to me ya’ll

Drill here, drill now
How ‘bout some oil from our own soil that belongs to us anyhow
No more debatin’ we’re tired of waitin’ everybody shout out loud
Drill here, drill now

Well the winds of change are blowin’
Yes and we recognize that need
But tractors, trucks, cars and planes can’t run on tomorrow’s dreams
So while we’re workin’ on the future we can’t ignore today
Cuz who knows how much time the alternative might take
Somethin’s gotta be done right now cuz friends it won’t be long
Before this great big country comes grinding to a halt

Drill here, drill now
How ‘bout some oil from our own soil that belongs to us anyhow
No more debatin’ we’re tired of waitin’ everybody shout out loud
Drill here, drill now
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America uses 25% of the world's oil. The pools under american soil and offshore only amount too 4% of of the world's oil. So in your noecon brain how does drilling only solve the problem?
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He didn't say drill only. He said drill. How does not drilling help?
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PostSubject: Re: Drill Here, Drill Now - The Song   Drill Here, Drill Now - The Song Icon_minitimeThu Sep 11, 2008 12:20 am

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America uses 25% of the world's oil. The pools under american soil and offshore only amount too 4% of of the world's oil. So in your noecon brain how does drilling only solve the problem?

Where have I said that drilling ONLY is the answer. I believe we should start with drilling now. This should be even more clear to everyone after the OPEC gangsters voted today to cut production in order to stop the falling prices. They know they have us by the balls. You'll be one of the first to bitch and moan when the price of gas starts to climb again. Even if it does take 10 years to realize any benefit from expanded drilling in the US, we need to start now. We wouldn't be in such a bad situation now if we had started ten years ago.

We also need to build nuclear plants to power our ever-increasing demand for electricity without using fossil fuels to do so. France gets 80% of its power from nuclear. We all know how libs like you love to imitate the French. This would be one time I'd agree.

There are other sources of energy that need to be explored and expanded, too. Solar and wind, for example. How about compressed natural gas to use in cars?

The one thing that I haven't heard any politicians talking about lately is our need to expand mass transit systems. Yeah, we want instant, so train service from New York to LA would probably flop. But what about regional systems that aren't run by the government? Much of the infrastruture is already in place. I'm really surprised that nobody has started bus service to Kansas City and Denver from Hays and Salina. The best example of something similar that I can give, and one that I've personally experienced, is Concord Coach Lines in New England. They pick people up at the luggage concourse in Boston's Logan Airport and take them home. It's convenient and just as fast as driving. Couple that with the gas savings and not having to pay airport parking fees, it's a great deal. They also have service from South Station for people who just want to visit Boston. Of course there's Greyhound, but I don't have to tell you about their reputation for bad service and dirty, smelly buses. They have Greyhound there, too, and probably cheaper. But the trip we took was on a clean, well air conditioned bus. They even showed a movie on the way. That's more than I can say for American Airlines on the 3 1/2 hour flight from Dallas to Boston.

So don't give me your DNC talking points about anyone who is for drilling thinking that it's a panacea. It's a start, and we have to start somewhere.
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slickjay12 wrote:
America uses 25% of the world's oil. The pools under american soil and offshore only amount too 4% of of the world's oil. So in your noecon brain how does drilling only solve the problem?

Where have I said that drilling ONLY is the answer. I believe we should start with drilling now. This should be even more clear to everyone after the OPEC gangsters voted today to cut production in order to stop the falling prices. They know they have us by the balls. You'll be one of the first to bitch and moan when the price of gas starts to climb again. Even if it does take 10 years to realize any benefit from expanded drilling in the US, we need to start now. We wouldn't be in such a bad situation now if we had started ten years ago.

We also need to build nuclear plants to power our ever-increasing demand for electricity without using fossil fuels to do so. France gets 80% of its power from nuclear. We all know how libs like you love to imitate the French. This would be one time I'd agree.

There are other sources of energy that need to be explored and expanded, too. Solar and wind, for example. How about compressed natural gas to use in cars?

The one thing that I haven't heard any politicians talking about lately is our need to expand mass transit systems. Yeah, we want instant, so train service from New York to LA would probably flop. But what about regional systems that aren't run by the government? Much of the infrastruture is already in place. I'm really surprised that nobody has started bus service to Kansas City and Denver from Hays and Salina. The best example of something similar that I can give, and one that I've personally experienced, is Concord Coach Lines in New England. They pick people up at the luggage concourse in Boston's Logan Airport and take them home. It's convenient and just as fast as driving. Couple that with the gas savings and not having to pay airport parking fees, it's a great deal. They also have service from South Station for people who just want to visit Boston. Of course there's Greyhound, but I don't have to tell you about their reputation for bad service and dirty, smelly buses. They have Greyhound there, too, and probably cheaper. But the trip we took was on a clean, well air conditioned bus. They even showed a movie on the way. That's more than I can say for American Airlines on the 3 1/2 hour flight from Dallas to Boston.

So don't give me your DNC talking points about anyone who is for drilling thinking that it's a panacea. It's a start, and we have to start somewhere.

OPEC cut production and oil closed at 102 a barrel donw 68 cents from close yesterday. And DRILL NOW is a GOP talking point. So don't give your GOP talking points
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slickjay12 wrote:
OPEC cut production and oil closed at 102 a barrel donw 68 cents from close yesterday. And DRILL NOW is a GOP talking point. So don't give your GOP talking points

You know it's only a matter of time before the speculators will drive the price up due to this production cut. You're not that dumb.

And drill now might be on the Republican agenda, but the fact remains that it's not a magic bullet. But sitting on our hands isn't going to solve anything.

Wait a minute, the Dems do have a magic bullet. How's your tire pressure?
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CNG for cars is a good idea according to T.B. Pickems. He also wants to replace coal-fired power with CNG. And back up wind energy with CNG. Any idea what happens to the price of CNG if we do that?

The price of CNG has tripled in the last 10 years just on the growing economy.
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Justoo wrote:
CNG for cars is a good idea according to T.B. Pickems. He also wants to replace coal-fired power with CNG. And back up wind energy with CNG. Any idea what happens to the price of CNG if we do that?

The price of CNG has tripled in the last 10 years just on the growing economy.

Sure the price goes up unless there's expanded production. However, it's money being paid to Americans, not to people who want to kill us.
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Sure the price goes up unless there's expanded production. However, it's money being paid to Americans, not to people who want to kill us.

Don't be so sure.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420941,00.html

Get this one," says billionaire T. Boone Pickens in his latest TV ad, "Iran is changing its cars to natural gas and we're not doing a thing here. They're doing this to use less oil and sell it for $120 a barrel. We can switch our cars to natural gas and stop sending our dollars to foreign countries."

Readers of this column know better than to take at face value the marketing of the so-called "Pickens Plan."

So what's the full story behind Iran's move, and what would be the impact of switching our cars to natural gas?

Although Iran is a major oil and gas producer, it lacks oil-refining capacity and must import about 50 percent of its gasoline. To be less vulnerable to international pressure concerning its nuclear program, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad decided to reduce Iran's reliance on imported gasoline.

He started with rationing in May 2007. But that quickly led to violent social unrest.

Ahmadinejad then decided to convert Iran's new car fleet to natural gas. So 60 percent of Iran's car production this year -- about 429,000 vehicles -- will be dual-fuel-ready, capable of running on both gasoline and natural gas.

But contrary to Pickens assertion, Iran isn't trying to use less oil:; It's trying to use less imported gasoline -- and only to thwart a possible international gasoline embargo.

Though hardly a role model for energy policy, should we nevertheless follow Iran's lead with respect to natural-gas cars? Just what would that mean to you and to our economy?

While the natural gas sold for auto fuel is as much as 50 percent less expensive than gasoline -- at least for now -- the cover charge to get into a natural-gas vehicle can easily erase any savings.

A new natural-gas-powered car, such as the Honda Civic GX, for example, is almost 40 percent more expensive than a conventional Civic ($24,590 versus $17,700).

While tax credits can reduce the cost by thousands, somebody -- either you and/or taxpayers -- will be paying the difference.

If natural gas fuel saved you, say, $2 per gallon, then you'd have to drive 124,020 highway miles or 82,680 city miles to break even on fuel costs against the $6,890 purchase price premium.

You can convert an existing car from gasoline to natural gas, but the costs are daunting.

Converting a car to dual-use (as in Iran) costs between $6,000 to $10,000. Converting a car to run on natural gas only is about half as expensive.

Even so, the conversion has to be done correctly or, in the worst case, you risk leaks that could turn your car into an improvised explosive device. And if your car is altered without proof of EPA certification, you might not get any of the all-important conversion tax credits.

Then there's the inconvenience. Though their fuel tanks are larger -- which, incidentally, reduces trunk space -- natural gas cars have less range.

While a new Honda Civic can go as far as 500 miles on a tank of gasoline, the GX's range is less than half of that -- and, currently, there are only about 1,600 natural-gas refueling stations across the country, compared with 200,000 gasoline stations.

If your home uses natural gas, you could buy a home filling station at a cost of about $2,000 plus installation. While home filling stations can further reduce fuel costs to substantially below $2 per gallon, the devices take about 4 hours to replenish the fuel consumed by only 50 miles of driving. So much for gas-and-go.

Moving past the personal expense and inconvenience, the broader implications of natural-gas cars are worrisome.

The U.S. currently uses about 23 trillion cubic feet of natural gas per year. Like all commodities, the price of natural gas is supply-and-demand dependent.

Switching just 10 percent of the U.S. car fleet to natural gas would dramatically increase our consumption of natural gas by about 8 percent (1.9 trillion cubic feet) -- an amount that is slightly less than one-half of all current residential natural gas usage and one-quarter of all industrial usage.

The price ramifications of such a demand spike would likely be significant. The current cost advantage of natural gas over gasoline could easily be reversed. Our move toward energy independence could also be compromised.

Domestic production of natural gas has not kept pace with rapidly increasing demand. Consequently, about 15 percent of our natural gas must now be imported.

Without more domestic gas drilling, additional demand will need to be met with natural gas imported by pipeline and in liquefied form from the very same foreign sources that T. Boone Pickens rails about in the context of oil.

In its most recent annual outlook, the U.S. Department of Energy projects that the U.S. natural-gas market will become more integrated with natural-gas markets worldwide as the U.S. becomes more dependent on imported liquefied natural gas -- causing greater uncertainty in future U.S. natural-gas prices.

The natural-gas supply problem will be additionally magnified if significant greenhouse-gas regulation is enacted.

Here's how: Currently, when natural gas gets too expensive, electric utilities often substitute coal or cheaper fuels for power generation.

Under a greenhouse-gas regulation scheme, however, inexpensive coal might no longer be an alternative because of the significantly greater greenhouse-gas emissions involved with its combustion.

Utilities, and ultimately consumers, could easily find themselves at the mercy of natural-gas barons -- like T. Boone Pickens himself, a large investor in natural gas.

Is that the real "Pickens Plan?"
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