unethical?

nobodysbusiness wrote:

well this thread had taken an interesting turn...

Bighead - I have nothing to do with problems with the site. Its free, run by the forummotion people. No idea what the problem is, nor do I care.

Well, your website is trying to pass trojans & worms to me. I have Kaspersky, which is a pretty good antivirus... so I'm relatively safe wading in this cess-pool. But anybody whose computer isn't similarly protected is likely getting infected with assorted spyware.

Whether or not you care is your business. But if I had a website, I reckon I would.

I don't see how it is trying to pass you viruses, spyware etc. I have Kaspersky also, and never encountered a popup saying anything about the site. I also access it from work where there is no antivirus at all and never had an issue either. If you hate this cesspool so much, leave! No one forces you to come here.

Did I SAY that I hate this cesspool?

I actually like this place, and most of the people here. I dunno why you'd assume otherwise.

As for the website- all I can tell you is that when I go to this site- Kaspersky occasionally blocks it from loading, and says the site was denied due to trying to pass off the worm-of-the-day. Doesn't happen on any other site that I frequent.

It could be from one of your ads. I've run across that on occasion, mainly with shady bittorrent sites.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Ratzilla wrote:

It's just not fair!!!

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Ok, you've been a stupid ass and I've replied in a fitting fashion. So what's next. You gonna stick out your tongue, go nah nah nah, moon me or what? I want to be able to prepare an equally childish reply.

Bighead wrote:

As for the website- all I can tell you is that when I go to this site- Kaspersky occasionally blocks it from loading, and says the site was denied due to trying to pass off the worm-of-the-day. Doesn't happen on any other site that I frequent.

It could be from one of your ads. I've run across that on occasion, mainly with shady bittorrent sites.

Bighead wrote:

A guy like you might be able to set up a computer from off-the-shelf parts and/or do some low-level IT work. That ain't engineering. But I don't reckon I should expect you to make the distinction.

You bit. All your knowledge is internet. tape on butt-cheeks,,,

Ratzilla wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Ratzilla wrote:

It's just not fair!!!

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Ok, you've been a stupid ass and I've replied in a fitting fashion. So what's next. You gonna stick out your tongue, go nah nah nah, moon me or what? I want to be able to prepare an equally childish reply.

Did I step on your Mommy/Daddy button?

And, yup. I will always be childish in spirit. When you lose that, you grow old and die.

Gotta agree with that nitro.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Did I step on your Mommy/Daddy button?

I must have stepped on yours considering you prefered juvenile response to real debate.

Bighead wrote:

nobodysbusiness wrote:

well this thread had taken an interesting turn...

Bighead - I have nothing to do with problems with the site. Its free, run by the forummotion people. No idea what the problem is, nor do I care.

Well, your website is trying to pass trojans & worms to me. I have Kaspersky, which is a pretty good antivirus... so I'm relatively safe wading in this cess-pool. But anybody whose computer isn't similarly protected is likely getting infected with assorted spyware.

Whether or not you care is your business. But if I had a website, I reckon I would.

What you are encountering that are triggering your alarms are most likely the bots. NB doesn't put them here.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Bighead wrote:

As for the website- all I can tell you is that when I go to this site- Kaspersky occasionally blocks it from loading, and says the site was denied due to trying to pass off the worm-of-the-day. Doesn't happen on any other site that I frequent.

It could be from one of your ads. I've run across that on occasion, mainly with shady bittorrent sites.

Bighead wrote:

A guy like you might be able to set up a computer from off-the-shelf parts and/or do some low-level IT work. That ain't engineering. But I don't reckon I should expect you to make the distinction.

You bit. All your knowledge is internet. tape on butt-cheeks,,,

You know, I think I'd like you in real life.

But I'll admit that online- you're supremely talented at pissing me off.

Thank you Ratz. I have no control over the banners and ads either.

Personally I blame the banner ads. And I'd probably send a brief and bitchy email to the forummotion site. But I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it.

Bighead wrote:

Personally I blame the banner ads. And I'd probably send a brief and bitchy email to the forummotion site. But I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it.

I agree. Several times I have logged on and had the banner ads show something I have done an internet search for.

There's all kinds of things that will set off anti-spyware/anti-virus warnings because they are seen as invasive such as keyloggers. Bots look to see what's topic on these types of forums alot and it can be seen as suspicious activity. I don't trust the banner ads either. Active X controls can supposedly be used to do alot of malicious things behind the scenes.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Bighead wrote:

Personally I blame the banner ads. And I'd probably send a brief and bitchy email to the forummotion site. But I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it.

I agree. Several times I have logged on and had the banner ads show something I have done an internet search for.

...like a picture of a cup?

Hmmm. I been looking at some network hard drives on newegg. And what do you reckon I see on the baner ad?

Bighead wrote:

Hmmm. I been looking at some network hard drives on newegg. And what do you reckon I see on the baner ad?

They may have tapped my phone, then. I was talking to my mother this afternoon. She got a strange phone call soliciting personal information yesterday and my dad got a suspect letter in the mail (he passed away in January). I told her that she needs to have my sister print her credit report so she can check for identity theft. Bingo! Tonight there's a banner ad for a credit report service. I didn't even do a search.

Okay, that was probably coincidental, but I've noticed the same thing as Bignose from time to time. Facebook is like that, too.

Still got a newegg banner. Never had one on this site before.

And Kaspersky keeps having to block shit. ONLY on this site.

Bighead wrote:

Still got a newegg banner. Never had one on this site before.

And Kaspersky keeps having to block shit. ONLY on this site.

Remember our toolbox discussion yesterday? Now I have a Harbor Freight toolbox banner. My McAfee has never indicated anything on this site.

Marfark wrote:

Bighead wrote:

Still got a newegg banner. Never had one on this site before.

And Kaspersky keeps having to block shit. ONLY on this site.

Remember our toolbox discussion yesterday? Now I have a Harbor Freight toolbox banner. My McAfee has never indicated anything on this site.

And I now have a Norton ad and a Bed, Bath & Beyond ad.

suzyr wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Bighead wrote:

Personally I blame the banner ads. And I'd probably send a brief and bitchy email to the forummotion site. But I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it.

I agree. Several times I have logged on and had the banner ads show something I have done an internet search for.

...like a picture of a cup?

Blue poly cups.

All jest aside, I've noticed that when my mom was using Yahoo as her home page anything typed showed up in the search bar. Makes me wonder since I know Yahoo Messenger is monitoring your keyboard use if others have just found ways to piggyback off of it or similar programs.

Ratzilla wrote:

suzyr wrote:

nitromaxx98 wrote:

Bighead wrote:

Personally I blame the banner ads. And I'd probably send a brief and bitchy email to the forummotion site. But I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it.

I agree. Several times I have logged on and had the banner ads show something I have done an internet search for.

...like a picture of a cup?

Blue poly cups.

All jest aside, I've noticed that when my mom was using Yahoo as her home page anything typed showed up in the search bar. Makes me wonder since I know Yahoo Messenger is monitoring your keyboard use if others have just found ways to piggyback off of it or similar programs.

Zuckerberg has admitted the Facebook practices "information mining" so they can "enhance your Facebook experience." But no malicious intentions.

Yeah, right.

That's one reason I'm not overly fond of facebook. I use it for contacts with friends and family, but it seems to be a very intrusive mess.

Just for ya'll's information:

I downloaded and ran the free version of Malwarebytes this morning. Found one spyware item, and deleted it.

Now I'm no longer getting banner ads on this site based on my recent shopping sites... and Kaspersky has yet to pop up and block anything.

So the banner ads here are definitely exploiting spyware... but it seems that it can be removed easily enough.


And here's a fun fact that I've noticed. Now that the banner ads can't access my own computer- the ads that I see are based on the content of the thread that I happen to be looking at. On this particular thread, the banner ads are all about spyware. Go to the rules section of the forum, and the banner ads talk about on-line defamation and identity protection. Go to a thread in the religion section, and it advertises meditation bracelets. The default seems to be diploma-mill schools, financial aid, and the like.

I run Firefox with Ad Block Plus, I don't see any ads or banners on most sites, including this one. Works great, get's rid of so much crap on most sites. It's weird that when I use another computer or browser and it doesn't have Ad Block running, the websites I frequent often are so different looking, that I almost don't recognize them.

I don't care for firefox now that I've switched to Google Chrome (chrome is much faster, but fewer bells & whistles). But I'll have to see if they have an ad-block add-on for chrome.

There's an ad now for "2-minute Trojan removal."

I figured they'd slide right off in a couple of seconds after they're used.

Soungs like the "snug fit" might work better for you.

Bighead wrote:

Soungs like the "snug fit" might work better for you.

Don't need 'em. I been fixed.

lilchefed wrote:

I run Firefox with Ad Block Plus, I don't see any ads or banners on most sites, including this one. Works great, get's rid of so much crap on most sites. It's weird that when I use another computer or browser and it doesn't have Ad Block running, the websites I frequent often are so different looking, that I almost don't recognize them.

Thanks for the tip- hadn't even occurred to me.

I just googled ad block for google chrome. Took two clicks to install. No more ads.

Bighead wrote:

lilchefed wrote:

I run Firefox with Ad Block Plus, I don't see any ads or banners on most sites, including this one. Works great, get's rid of so much crap on most sites. It's weird that when I use another computer or browser and it doesn't have Ad Block running, the websites I frequent often are so different looking, that I almost don't recognize them.

Thanks for the tip- hadn't even occurred to me.

I just googled ad block for google chrome. Took two clicks to install. No more ads.

Works for Safari, too. Thanks, chef.

maybe thats why I dont see anything, my firefox blocks it already.

I tried Chrome when it first came out and just haven't dedicated anytime to it...is it still technically in Beta?

Bighead wrote:

I don't care for firefox now that I've switched to Google Chrome (chrome is much faster, but fewer bells & whistles). But I'll have to see if they have an ad-block add-on for chrome.

I use Firefox. I like the private browsing feature which IE9 also has. Does Chrome have something similar?

lilchefed wrote:

I tried Chrome when it first came out and just haven't dedicated anytime to it...is it still technically in Beta?

There are beta versions out there if you want to try out new features. But Chrome has been out in a regular and well-tested version for a couple years I think.

SciFi wrote:

Bighead wrote:

I don't care for firefox now that I've switched to Google Chrome (chrome is much faster, but fewer bells & whistles). But I'll have to see if they have an ad-block add-on for chrome.

I use Firefox. I like the private browsing feature which IE9 also has. Does Chrome have something similar?

I dunno. Never used that feature.

I'd like a feature that would fry the computer (and it's user) for attempting to spam, hack, or otherwise access mine without my consent. I don't buy the idea that having access to technology means we should be willing to put up with a few things.

Even if it were 50,000 BC and all I had was a piece of chalk and a cave wall to draw on my fellow troglodytes had better ask my permission to even touch my chalk.

lilchefed wrote:

I tried Chrome when it first came out and just haven't dedicated anytime to it...is it still technically in Beta?

I switched to using Chrome 97% of the time a year and a half ago and Ive never looked back. Fastest browser out there.

here we go again folks. I got a phone call tonight, from the lady that this particular thread is about. We just gave raises in June, and she did not get one, because after some investigation, my mom inadvertantly gave her a raise 1 month after raises last year. She got 2 raises in 2 months. Total pay increase ONE DOLLAR an hour. Seems they have been discussing pay again, and she called to complain that she didn't get a raise. I checked with the other employees, and she is right on track with all the other employees. Not to mention, with her still only being very part time, I think her salaray should be capped where it is. I am still in the same situation, I haven't got people beating down my door for a job. I do think something needs to be said about her discussing pay with other employees again. GRRRR people upset me sometimes.

$12 an hour, plus a dollar for every ice cream sold, I am there!

If you have it on record that she was given a second raise she wasn't supposed to have I think it's time for her to shut up or leave. And if she's part time she shouldn't have all the same benefits or priveledges of full timers anyways. Alot of part timers only get raises when minimum goes up.

Your dreamin nitro. Will never happen

Some people aren't worth the trouble they cause. Tell her to keep her big mouth shut or hit the frkkin bricks!

PROBLEM SOLVED!!! Guess she didn't think we paid her enough, and she put her 2 week notice in tonight. I think I am going to remove her from the schedule for the next two weeks. I'm done.

nobodysbusiness wrote:

PROBLEM SOLVED!!! Guess she didn't think we paid her enough, and she put her 2 week notice in tonight. I think I am going to remove her from the schedule for the next two weeks. I'm done.

While removing the cause of dissent is probably the best route, you need to be careful. Even though she has given her two weeks' notice, it can be characterized as an "involuntary termination without cause" if you do that. In many instances, if the employee then files for unemployment benefits, the state gives it to them no questions asked. The company is then rewarded for sound business practices with higher unemployment insurance premiums. Since she is very part time, it's doubtful that she'd try to take advantage of that, but you know better than me, or anyone else on here, whether she would.

Valid points. Keep her on the schedule and have a going away reception on her last day. You don't have to say you'll miss her.

Justoo wrote:

Valid points. Keep her on the schedule and have a going away reception on her last day. You don't have to say you'll miss her.

Then have a "good riddance" party the next day.

The other PROBLEM employee also gave her notice today. Both of these women only worked 1 night a week, complained constantly, and were horribly bitter and grouchy people. I am breathing a sigh of relief. Good riddance. Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out.