Body Count

whats sad is women actually use abortion as a form of birth control. That I dont agree with!!!

That would have been a hell of an army for next generation.

jessks75 wrote:

whats sad is women actually use abortion as a form of birth control. That I dont agree with!!!

That gets said a lot... thing is, I've never met anyone that had an abortion that did it for "birth control." I've never even heard of a friend of a friend or a friend of a friend's sister/cousin/etc. doing it for that. I would say that people that would actually use it for "birth control" are few and far between.

CelticDragon wrote:

I would say that people that would actually use it for "birth control" are few and far between.

Maybe not.

US "reported" rape statistics:

2003- 93,883
2004- 95,089
2005- 94,347
2006- 92,757
2007- 90,427

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

These figures are grossly misleading however, as a large percentage of these crimes go unreported.

"A recently published eight-year study indicates that when perpetrators of completed rape are current or former husbands or boyfriends, the crimes go unreported to the police 77 percent of the time. When the perpetrators are friends or acquaintances, the rapes go unreported 61 percent of the time. When the perpetrators are strangers, the rapes go unreported 54 percent of the time."

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/ncvrw/2005/pg5o.html

I was unable to attain any figures regarding the number of pregnancies that were caused by these incidents.

birth control or pregnancy prevention?

CelticDragon wrote:

jessks75 wrote:

whats sad is women actually use abortion as a form of birth control. That I dont agree with!!!

That gets said a lot... thing is, I've never met anyone that had an abortion that did it for "birth control." I've never even heard of a friend of a friend or a friend of a friend's sister/cousin/etc. doing it for that. I would say that people that would actually use it for "birth control" are few and far between.

I know LOTS of women that use the abortion as a form of "birth Conrol" personally!!!! I wouldnt have said it, if I didnt know anything about it!!!

all abortions are birth control, in how it controls the birth process. As opposed to birth control in referance to pregnancy prevention.

I once knew a girl that would prevent pregnancy by jumping up and down to shake it all out.

mikecc wrote:

all abortions are birth control, in how it controls the birth process. As opposed to birth control in referance to pregnancy prevention.

I once knew a girl that would prevent pregnancy by jumping up and down to shake it all out.

You got her phone #

785-650-####

jessks75 wrote:

CelticDragon wrote:

jessks75 wrote:

whats sad is women actually use abortion as a form of birth control. That I dont agree with!!!

That gets said a lot... thing is, I've never met anyone that had an abortion that did it for "birth control." I've never even heard of a friend of a friend or a friend of a friend's sister/cousin/etc. doing it for that. I would say that people that would actually use it for "birth control" are few and far between.

I know LOTS of women that use the abortion as a form of "birth Control" personally!!!! I wouldn't have said it, if I didn't know anything about it!!!

I knew a young lady when I was young and she had 6 with in 3 years. I was so upset about her habit I moved away. I don't know the total of abortions she had before she wised up and use a realistic form of birth control. I don't want to know. I know some women that SHOULD USE BIRTH CONTROL and don't. That's a whole other topic. GGGRRRROARRR

How many unwanted kids have you adopted, EP?

jewelz wrote:

some women that SHOULD USE BIRTH CONTROL and don't.

Hey now, thats why I'm "supermom"!! With as much taxes as we pay, we need more deductions!!!!

I'm kidding!!! We thought about it and I think were good on the kid count.

What the hell?? I meant to quote just the "some women that SHOULD USE BIRTH CONTROL and don't", part.

guess you dont know how to quote!!!

I guess I'm not a "major leaguer".......

ha, guess youre not! Sucks to be second best huh!!!

Jessie are you a hidden guest? How do I hide?

BTW I know of a few women who use abortion as BC also, I'ts sad, but true!

supermom75 wrote:

Jessie

WHO IN THE HELL IS THAT!!!!

Jessie's girl, come on lets all sing!!!!

No, really, lets get back to the topic. I don't want anybody gettin' all pissy 'cause we aren't talkin' about abortions.

I personaly wouldnt have one, hence my five children, but I do believe it's a womans right, and we shouldnt reverse roe v wade...

I don't think I know how to quote.... I just hit quote and then delete in the reply the part of the post I don't want. Surely that aint right? IME its been highlight text and thats all that gets quoted.

I think its a woman's choice unless she abuses the privilege!!! Using it at BC is totally messed up!

I don't particularly like the legal reasoning behind Roe v. Wade. And I'll concede that a "right to privacy" used to justify the decision simply doesn't exist in the Constitution.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see the Constitution amended to include that right. But I know that'll never happen.

So as a practical matter... seeings how I WANT a right to privacy- and I reckon that government should keep its laws off peoples' bodies (including abortion, drug policy, and gay rights)- I fully support Roe v. Wade.

It's a sticky question, both philosophically and scientifically, when 'life' begins. Seeings how individual women are the ones who have to squeeze said 'life' out of their vagina, I think the final decision should lie with THEM... not with political/religious whims.

EP- I assume you're aware that your own people traditionally believe that life begins with the first breath. Somehow that tradition didn't get passed down to most of Christianity's current incarnations.

jessks75 wrote:

I know LOTS of women that use the abortion as a form of "birth Conrol" personally!!!! I wouldnt have said it, if I didnt know anything about it!!!

Must be all those "abstinence only" sex-ed classes paying off.

if you say so

Sex ed starts at home, if you an open relationship with your kids, and they know what sex is and what can happen when you have sex, like std's and babies, then you just hope they make the right choice when they are in that situation.

I tell my boys to "wrap their willy before they get silly"! I also think it helps that I have a 5 month old and they got to and get to see first hand what having a baby is like. I'll be surprised if they ever have kids!!

supermom75 wrote:

jewelz wrote:

some women that SHOULD USE BIRTH CONTROL and don't.

Hey now, thats why I'm "supermom"!! With as much taxes as we pay, we need more deductions!!!!

I'm kidding!!! We thought about it and I think were good on the kid count.

ya da know I wasn't talking about ya.ya know!!LOL

supermom75 wrote:

Sex ed starts at home, if you an open relationship with your kids, and they know what sex is and what can happen when you have sex, like std's and babies, then you just hope they make the right choice when they are in that situation.

I tell my boys to "wrap their willy before they get silly"! I also think it helps that I have a 5 month old and they got to and get to see first hand what having a baby is like. I'll be surprised if they ever have kids!!

I think helping with a baby teaches A LOT!!! Also when the teens see peers make choices in life and get to see how their life goes after the choices good and bad. That's life lessons. Yes ,we need to teach them proper birth control . Thank you to all you parents that do!

Bighead wrote:

I don't particularly like the legal reasoning behind Roe v. Wade. And I'll concede that a "right to privacy" used to justify the decision simply doesn't exist in the Constitution.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see the Constitution amended to include that right. But I know that'll never happen.

So as a practical matter... seeings how I WANT a right to privacy- and I reckon that government should keep its laws off peoples' bodies (including abortion, drug policy, and gay rights)- I fully support Roe v. Wade.

It's a sticky question, both philosophically and scientifically, when 'life' begins. Seeings how individual women are the ones who have to squeeze said 'life' out of their vagina, I think the final decision should lie with THEM... not with political/religious whims.

EP- I assume you're aware that your own people traditionally believe that life begins with the first breath. Somehow that tradition didn't get passed down to most of Christianity's current incarnations.

Women do have the right! I just don't believe having 6 + abortions in the name of "rights" nor birth control is sane for lack of a better word.

Stich 'em together at the knees!

mikecc wrote:

Stich 'em together at the knees!

LOL LMAO

mikecc wrote:

Stich 'em together at the knees!

Stitch higher, some can bend over quite far.

OR we can cut off all penis'

Why mutilate genitalia?

jessks75 wrote:

OR we can cut off all penis'

What kind of box will you keep them in?

Sorry.

nitromaxx98 wrote:

jessks75 wrote:

OR we can cut off all penis'

What kind of box will you keep them in?

who says a BOX I say the fields!!!!

OMG your going to plant penis's. What will grow? OH NO!

hey I will have all the penis I want that WAY!!!!! good thing I cant get Pregnant!!!

seriously!!!!

TAKE YOUR BIRTH CONTROL!!!

jewelz wrote:

Women do have the right! I just don't believe having 6 + abortions in the name of "rights" nor birth control is sane for lack of a better word.

You'll get no argument from me here. I'm no fan of abortion in general. But I think this is one of those issues where the excesses of trailer/ghetto trash have to be tolerated. The only alternative is to restrict everybody else's rights.

jewelz wrote:

TAKE YOUR BIRTH CONTROL!!!

If you're really serious about avoiding pregnancy... I suggest a combination of two forms of birth control.

I know of several kids who owe their existence birth-control failure (including but not limited to broken condoms).

I had a tubal ligation, I'm not worried about pregnancy anymore.

a tubal ligation wont fail? I dunno the human body is really odd sometimes, I know mine is.

mine hasnt in 11 years

jessks75 wrote:

mine hasnt in 11 years

you gotta be getting some for it to fail.

it could fail, but there is like a 1% chance of that happening.

mikecc wrote:

jessks75 wrote:

mine hasnt in 11 years

you gotta be getting some for it to fail.

THATS NOT FAIR!!!!